A Breakdown of the O-Line play from Sunday

[Ricky Spanish]

OK, so I posted this in another thread but some thought it should be it's own. This a breakdown of O-Line Play throughout some key plays from the highlights from the below video. This does not show the full story as these are just highlights:

(0:02) First Play where Sam is sacked, Paradis gets baptized and Sam goes down. 100% on Paradis.

(2:20) Miller whiffs on his block but is picked up by the RB. Protection didn't slide to pick up the free blitzer from the left side. Not sure if that is on Sam or Paradis for not adjusting presnap - most likely on Sam.

(3:07) Miller again whiffs on a block, Sam is able to avoid the rush. Hit by the guy Paradis was blocking but that wasn't on Paradis, solid blocking on that play.

(4:38) Not our line but watch their LG #52 completely and BLATANTLY HOLD Fox on the Dak scramble for a first on 4th and 2. This was the same drive where Schultz fumbled but Boger was a fuging idiot and called the play unreviewable. That one just pisses me off so much, unrelated to this thread, just thought you guys should know.

(6:06) Miller, again, whiffs his block and Sam Scrambles for a 1st down. Paradis also falls down for some reason but he wasn't doing much on this play to begin with.

(6:20) Daley whiffs his block but it's inconsequential because Hubbard bounces outside for a solid gain (Great blocks by Tremble and Erving on this play actually).

(6:37) Erving whiff, Sam scrambles to make a completion

(7:30) Erving falls and gets Sam Sacked. Gregory slipped between both him and Daley. Erving 90% at fault but Daley didn't even attempt to engage the DE when he slid by (Daley was no longer engaged with his man at this point.)

(8:20) Coverage sack. No offensive linemen to blame. 

(8:38) Daley fails to pick up the stunt allowing a free rusher right at the QB. Sam gets it out to Moore quickly for a completion.

(8:54) RB PANCAKES Parsons while Paradis pushes his block directly into Sam while he throws. Erving ends up on his ass again and Daley maaaaaaaaaay have gotten away with a hold

(11:34) Offensive line as a whole fails to get any push and we fail on 3rd and 1

(11:51) Pretty Clean Pocket that Darnold is able to climb. Throws a pick though. All Darnold.

(13:37) Parsons Sack, RB Cut him but he still got to Sam. Rest of line did their job. More rushers than O-Lineman, can't really blame anyone.

(14:20) Line holds up well enough. Paradis gets pushed back more than I would like but Sam stay's upright. 

(14:33) 97 get's a fantastic jump on the snap and makes Erving's life hard. Doesn't help that Daley gets bullrushed and pushed back onto his heels making Sam roll out of the pocket. End result is a TD. Task failed successfully.  

Summary:

• Everyone not named Moton looked bad one play or another in the highlights. 
• Rodney Smith is a legit pass blocking RB. Numerous plays he was in, he was throwing great blocks and keeping Sam safe. Very impressed with him.
• Erving can't stay on his feet.
• Paradis wasn't as bad as I thought but not great. His Run blocking was definitely good to great
• Sliding protections were off throughout the game. Don't know who needs to work on that between Sam and Paradis but it needs to get fixed moving forward.
• Miller looked like the worst one out there. By a lot.
• Sam is an elusive SOB. His pocket awareness was actually pretty decent and he was able to navigate it well. Came away very impressed with how he was playing under pressure throughout the game. Pleasantly surprised. 
• Ranking O-Lineman performance based on the above highlights (again, not the full game):
  • Moton
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  • Paradis
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  • Daley
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  • Erving
  • Miller
• Christiansen needs to get some time in the starting lineup, whether that be at LG, LT, or RT sliding Moton to the left. Daley is not the answer either, but he was horrendous on the right side the other game, better to keep him on the left and a better option than Elflein. 

[Scott12345]

Thanks for doing this

[Snake]

Pretty much has been the consensus. Can't blame a single person because they are all bad. How we thought this line was going to get it done is beyond me. I guess it was the we could do. 

[hepcat]

Meanwhile Rashawn Slater is crushing dudes for the chargers and Jaycee Horn is out for the season. Typical Panthers being cursed stuff.

[Eazy-E]

1:00 is the LT allowed to lift up a defender from under his shoulder pads?

9:20 both LT and LG push two Panther defenders in the back to spring Elliott free for what would have been a tackle for a loss.

Very next play RT pushes Reddick down from behind allowing Zeke to run by for a first down. You can see Reddick throw his hands up in frustration. 
 

Next play Cooper pushes off Henderson causing him to stumble and fall right before the catch.

 

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Meanwhile Rashawn Slater is crushing dudes for the chargers and Jaycee Horn is out for the season. Typical Panthers being cursed stuff.

He looked amazing last night.   I feel this is going to bite us in the ass

[Ricky Spanish]

3 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

1:00 is the LT allowed to lift up a defender from under his shoulder pads?

9:20 both LT and LG push two Panther defenders in the back to spring Elliott free for what would have been a tackle for a loss.

Very next play RT pushes Reddick down from behind allowing Zeke to run by for a first down. You can see Reddick throw his hands up in frustration. 
 

Next play Cooper pushes off Henderson causing him to stumble and fall right before the catch.

 

I didn't bother watching the Cowboy's stuff other than that one play. I was just going to get more angry.

[Catsfan69]

4 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

1:00 is the LT allowed to lift up a defender from under his shoulder pads?

9:20 both LT and LG push two Panther defenders in the back to spring Elliott free for what would have been a tackle for a loss.

Very next play RT pushes Reddick down from behind allowing Zeke to run by for a first down. You can see Reddick throw his hands up in frustration. 
 

Next play Cooper pushes off Henderson causing him to stumble and fall right before the catch.

 

1 and 920 are legal plays at all levels of football 

[Catsfan69]

7 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

1:00 is the LT allowed to lift up a defender from under his shoulder pads?

9:20 both LT and LG push two Panther defenders in the back to spring Elliott free for what would have been a tackle for a loss.

Very next play RT pushes Reddick down from behind allowing Zeke to run by for a first down. You can see Reddick throw his hands up in frustration. 
 

Next play Cooper pushes off Henderson causing him to stumble and fall right before the catch.

 

ART. 1 . . . The free-blocking zone is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behind each line of scrimmage. A player is in the free-blocking zone when any part of his body is in the zone at the snap.

ART. 2 . . . Blocking below the waist is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:

a. All players involved in the blocking are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.

b. The contact is in the zone.

ART. 3 . . . Clipping is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:

a. By offensive linemen who are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.

b. Against defensive players who are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.

c. The contact is in the zone.


ART. 4 . . . Blocking in the back is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:


a. By offensive linemen who are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.

b. Against defensive players who are in the zone at the snap.

c. The contact is in the zone.

ART. 5 . . . The free-blocking zone disintegrates and the exception for a player to block below the waist and/or the exception for an offensive lineman to clip and/or block in the back is not to continue after the ball has left the zone

[Eazy-E]

12 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

1 and 920 are legal plays at all levels of football 

I guess just add it to the list of why our offensive line sucks because I rarely ever see them do that kind of stuff.

[rayzor]

"Breakdown of the O-line"..... The recurring theme of the year.

[frankw]

Trying not to play the what if game about Slater but it's impossible not to consider. I'm optimistic and I think we can adjust to some things but the dollar store Dave style approach to our oline is a story that just never seems to go away for the Panthers. I expect big moves and that to be our top priority next year.

[PantherPhann89]

52 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Meanwhile Rashawn Slater is crushing dudes for the chargers and Jaycee Horn is out for the season. Typical Panthers being cursed stuff.

Really, the man got injured.

[Louie]

22 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He looked amazing last night.   I feel this is going to bite us in the ass

Right after Sewell got picked, I thought, ok, we will probably draft Slater. Some people thought he might be more ready than Sewell. I was going to be happy with it, but then they went Horn. Jaycee will probably be a great player, but I would feel much better with both a solid LT and RT.