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When did you give up on Matt Rhule?


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2 minutes ago, firefox1234 said:

When he picked up Sam's 5ht year option.

You don't need to be Nostradamus to know that was never going to be a good idea.

betting on him turning it around and having him under contract for another season, vs. letting him dangle and demand a huge contract extension

if you're bringing him in you obviously think he's going to rebound

that was just a logical move

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Just now, electro's horse said:

betting on him turning it around and having him under contract for another season, vs. letting him dangle and demand a huge contract extension

if you're bringing him in your obviously think he's going to rebound

that was just a logical move

I don't know how expecting Sam to be something he hasn't shown he can be is a logical move.

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Honestly I was almost done after the first year. I could see the bad at the end of last year but I hoped it would be corrected after a full offseason. It wasn’t. In fact the team seems to be getting worse under him. 
But after this game I am done. We need an NFL experienced head coach or Rhule needs to hire some coaches that aren’t a bunch of college coaches. 

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1 minute ago, firefox1234 said:

I don't know how expecting Sam to be something he hasn't shown he can be is a logical move.

then you don't bring him in 

sam was always the third choice. if you're in for a penny you're in for a pound. the panthers believed they could build an offense for him to thrive in, one that leaned on CMC that he could execute. And that after he did that he would command more money. and for a second there it looked like it was going to work out, but of course now everything has fallen apart. 

just because of what's happened in the interim doesn't change what the situation was when the move happened

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2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Honestly I was almost done after the first year. I could see the bad at the end of last year but I hoped it would be corrected after a full offseason. It wasn’t. In fact the team seems to be getting worse under him. 
But after this game I am done. We need an NFL experienced head coach or Rhule needs to hire some coaches that aren’t a bunch of college coaches. 

He kept running fake punts last year, going for it on 4th down at the wrong times and just generally making stupid decisions. The team was no good last season but I think they lost 2 or 3 games as a direct result of terrible coaching. I remember asking myself "what in hell is he doing?" multiple times. 

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2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I don't know if you pay attention to fit your narrative but Fields blows. If we took him it would actually set us back further because we would give him a 3 year leash, so at least we wasted a 2nd round pick instead of a first

yea you probably right lol

still, slater though. i would have been fine with rolling with PJ for a year tbh.

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2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I don't know if you pay attention to fit your narrative but Fields blows. If we took him it would actually set us back further because we would give him a 3 year leash, so at least we wasted a 2nd round pick instead of a first

Did the Cards do that with Josh Rosen?

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