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Sam Darnold never should have been an NFL starter.


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I’m just sitting here watching old tape some guy posted on Twitter about Sam Darnold back before the 2018 draft and thinking to myself, how was this guy even a top 10 pick? I watched Darnold play a number of times in college and never understood what people saw in him. 
 

His footwork was atrocious in college and it still is today. He turned the ball over regularly in college. He sailed balls from clean pockets and had accuracy issues. The only good moments seemed to be when he was flushed from the pocket. And he runs from the pocket because he can’t make quick decisions.

I thought Cam was slower than average at reading a defense but you could give Sam Darnold an entire game to read the defense and he still might throw a pick.

How he even ended up getting this far in his football career is really mystifying. 

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He has a lot of physical tools so I get why someone would take a shot on him. I do wonder how they couldn't tell in workouts that they shouldn't waste the pick. The fact all that happened, he went on and failed it up in NJ and we still traded for him is beyond embarrassing.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I pegged Darnold as a bust that year, but then again I also thought Josh Allen was gonna bust too. The strides that guy has made as a pure passer is just amazing.

Josh Allen put the work in, and it also helps that he understands what he’s seeing out there. It took a season, but he got it. QB is a tough position.

 

You’re dead out there as a QB if you can’t process what you’re seeing on the field or you’re too slow processing it. The talent is just too great

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This should go  long way to teaching Rhule that he may not be able to coach everyone up. Sometimes  people are just who they are. It may work in college when players are more raw, but not as much in the NFL.

I said in another thread and I’ll say it again I bet that from Monday to Saturday Sam Darnold says, does and knows what they do, but on Sundays during the game all that just hits the fan.

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It’s gotta suck if you’re a player out there; in particular a skill position player, and the guy who’s supposed to know everything doesn’t. 
 

I.E Robby, and why you see DJ not going all out at times. They know what they’re supposed to be doing out there, and one thing a WR knows is where the ball is supposed to be. Been preaching this for awhile

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