This defense has allowed 14 scoring drives longer than 60 yards all season.

[TheRumGone]

1 hour ago, Fox007 said:

Er nope, I was hardly on here off season at all so you got the wrong guy. Offseason I was def hoping it was Gase and would be a Tannehill situation. Lately I had long conversations with kungfoodude actually about how I was 2.7% on Darnold turning it around so....uh...lol

Citation needed homie go ahead the post history is available. 

At this point its settled science. I don't debate about flat earth it doesn't require an opinion. Saying lul Darnold sucks lul Darnold sucks in every thread isn't football talk. There's other poo to look at.

This has been talked about ad naseum with plenty of links and videos of former qbs and coaches. Sam doesn’t process what is on the field. Cant understand basics which limits what Brady can do. 

[PandaMan]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Bullshit. Scheme over team. His poor concepts, coaching, and play calling are what is giving us 6 points in a game. Not the poorly coached players. I mean hell we knew Sam could be damaged goods yet zero back up plan from Brady. Just let him go out there and sling it around like he's Tom Brady. 

I agree with scheme over team, but what is he supposed to do when his QB is constantly making poor decisions and giving the ball away? There definitely should’ve been a backup plan for Darnold, but I put that on Rhule over Brady.  I do think Brady is a bit too green right now, but firing Brady with this shitty group is a solid way to ensure no other young, talented offensive coaches will want to come here.  Im probably rambling, damn these CBD gummies are legit

[kungfoodude]

Just now, rico6 said:

Nothing "Average" about this offense. Ranks historically as one of the worst in history up to this point. 

7th worst by points and 5th worst by yardage in Panthers history, so far.

Tied for 2nd worst in TO's/GM, though.

[cardiackat88.]

Maybe we should just use that strategy from The Waterboy and kneel every offensive play so our defense came come kick ass!

Signing Kaepernick all makes sense now…..

[trueblade]

27 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I think Brady is an issue too. Teddy isn't a long term franchise option, but with NO and with DEN he is scoring TDs pretty well. And DEN has a terrible OL too, and imo are weaker at skill positions than we are. Yet the % of TDs he throws dropped quite a bit here relative to NO and DEN. Teddy probably has this team with 2 losses and atop the division...

CMC alone is better than anyone on Denver, but he hasn't been available. Outside of CMC, its very debatable.

Jeudy is at best a push compared to DJ.

Sutton is better Robby.

Patrick is much better than Marshall at this point.

Fant is much better than Tremble/Thomas.

Gordon / Williams is better than Chubba / Abdullah / Freeman.

[BrianS]

Two offseasons ago we were worried about the wrong coordinator.  We were worried Phil Snow wasn't up to the NFL standard.  My, my how times change.  Turns out, Snow is actually a pretty darn good coordinator and Brady is trending toward the next Adam Gase.

Even if Rhule and Snow get fired, I'll follow Phil Snow just to see his defenses play.

[philit99]

3 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

That totals out to 10.8 points per game
 

 

So more than half the points given up by this defense were drives under 60 yard most of them were drives under 40 yards to be honest. This might be the best defense we have ever had, but the numbers won’t show cause this offense is that pathetic and will continue to put the defense in bad spots.

It is a shame we didnt pick up Joe Flacco, or an equivalent game manager QB. We just need a good game manger with a deep ball threat, them boom.

[mav1234]

58 minutes ago, trueblade said:

CMC alone is better than anyone on Denver, but he hasn't been available. Outside of CMC, its very debatable.

Jeudy is at best a push compared to DJ.

Sutton is better Robby.

Patrick is much better than Marshall at this point.

Fant is much better than Tremble/Thomas.

Gordon / Williams is better than Chubba / Abdullah / Freeman.

DJ is better than Jeudy or Sutton IMO.  He certainly has had better years than either. Sutton and Jeudy are better this year than Robby is this year, but Robby had as good a year last year as either has ever had...  Based on production with TB, I'd say DJ+Robby >> Sutton + Jeudy.  But Jeudy hasn't been available for them either (less than CMC, only 1 game started), and so this is more of a DJ+Robby vs Sutton+Patrick and with TB I would say that goes to DJ+Robby by far.  I do think a big part of Robby's problem is Darnold.

Fant is better.  I suppose I didn't consider TE a skill position, lol, but that is fair.  

RB I think is close to a push just because of CMC playing half of our games this year, and we already mentioned Jeudy, so.

edit: I know DEN's passblocking has been bad, but I wonder how their run blocking has been. I only watched one of their games and it didn't look bad.  Gordon and Williams are an excellent backfield duo tho.

Edited November 8, 2021 by mav1234

[Pantherxtreme]

57 minutes ago, trueblade said:

CMC alone is better than anyone on Denver, but he hasn't been available. Outside of CMC, its very debatable.

Jeudy is at best a push compared to DJ.

Sutton is better Robby.

Patrick is much better than Marshall at this point.

Fant is much better than Tremble/Thomas.

Gordon / Williams is better than Chubba / Abdullah / Freeman.

Jeudy has been out majority of the season due to injury. 

[ickmule]

4 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

We have the worst qb in the league

Man, that is so true. They let an average Teddy go just to get this scrub.

[Fright]

What a waste. Can’t believe we banked on Sam I see ghosts Darnold. Smfh 

[KatsAzz]

It is heart breaking to have such a good defense and such a poor offense. Life in the NFL can certainly be hard to teams like ours that are so unbalanced..

[Fox007]

3 hours ago, rico6 said:

Nothing "Average" about this offense. Ranks historically as one of the worst in history up to this point. 

Average may as well be elite at this point.
If we had an Average offense we'd probably only have 2 Ls at most.

[Snake]

3 hours ago, PandaMan said:

I agree with scheme over team, but what is he supposed to do when his QB is constantly making poor decisions and giving the ball away? There definitely should’ve been a backup plan for Darnold, but I put that on Rhule over Brady.  I do think Brady is a bit too green right now, but firing Brady with this shitty group is a solid way to ensure no other young, talented offensive coaches will want to come here.  Im probably rambling, damn these CBD gummies are legit

He's making poor decisions because Brady is calling poor plays. I'm not saying we would have a top 10 offense if he was better but we would score more than 6 points a game. Our offense isn't historically bad because of talent.