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3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Of course not.  Stop.  Moving up to #1 from like 5 doesn’t cost 3 first, 2 2nds and Burns and Chinn.  Wake up

I acknowledged the player cost. But in terms of picks? It would cost a ton to move from 1 from 5, assuming the 1st overall team even wants to trade down. And if there's a #1 overall worthy QB, there's a good chance they aren't moving. But let's play along and assume they would. I just cited the 49ers package to move from 12 to 3. The value difference on the trade value chart from 12 to 3 is 1300 points. The gap from 12 to 3 is 1000 points. It would take the 5th overall plus two future firsts plus likely a second or third round pick to move up. 

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Restructure, resign, extend whatever BS moves they need to do to make it work for the salary cap. The Saints have been doing it for a decade now. 

I already posted an article from the Saints fansided on what they would need to do. It invovled them moving on from key pieces of talent on their roster. 

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2 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

I acknowledged the player cost. But in terms of picks? It would cost a ton to move from 1 from 5, assuming the 1st overall team even wants to trade down. And if there's a #1 overall worthy QB, there's a good chance they aren't moving. But let's play along and assume they would. I just cited the 49ers package to move from 12 to 3. The value difference on the trade value chart from 12 to 3 is 1300 points. The gap from 12 to 3 is 1000 points. It would take the 5th overall plus two future firsts plus likely a second or third round pick to move up. 

Waiting on QB this year could put us at #1 and cost nothing extra pick wise.  It is all hypotheticals at this point

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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The saints would have to trade away players from that defense to make the deal happen, also they would need to cut roby and jenkins. They have to replace 2 olineman starts from last year, and MT will not be in the deal to the Texans, bc the Texans dont want that expensive headache.

I dont think Watson would be coming to last year's saints team. He would be joining a gutted Saints team, with zero space next year as of this moment. 

I still see the Saints as the leader in the clubhouse.  Too many offensive weapons that Watson would like to work with.   But the Saints would definitely have to take some lumps to make the deal happen.  Probably most of these on defense. 

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I'll be a Panthers fan until the team doesn't exist or is moved elsewhere.  We could blow up the whole team and be hopeless and the Panthers would still be my team.  Just the way it is for me.  That's more of an emotional attachment than anything.  I've moved all around the country since growing up in Charlotte and I simply cannot stop being a Panthers fan  (for better or worse).

But on the Watson/Tepper dynamic.  In the professional world, anyone who's burned a bridge like that with their previous employer has huge red flags.  They could be coming from a terrible situation, but it's still something to watch closely.  Was Houston 100% in the wrong and Watson would love spending the rest of his career in Carolina?  Maybe.  But to me the risk is certainly there that after 3-5 years of BS in Carolina he wants out again.  Combine that with a FO/Ownership that has soured on 2 QBs in 2 years.  It's not a great look.

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