Moving the chains may be eliminated soon.

[Eazy-E]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

Good. About time we started using tech to improve games. A chip for first downs and breaking the goal line would solve time-costly issues once it’s ironed out. 
 

Also ready for automated strike zones in baseball. 

It won’t ever happen because of how massive the sports betting market has become. Multi billion dollar industry isn’t going to leave things to chance. 

Technology keeps getting better and better and yet the percentage of blown / missed calls continues to increase. Sorry, but I don’t think the correlation between that and the growing sports betting market is a coincidence.

[BerryLoMein]

So what do we call it now? Moving the chip?

[MHS831]

Points

The chain measurement is dramatic. 

Calling for a measurement was like a free timeout. 

They could freeze the video image and measure exactly where the ball was when the runner was down.

Really helpful when holding ball out while running out of bounds.

 

[onmyown]

Referees are (very) slowly becoming phased out, at the least not on the field. Some argue the ‘fun unpredictable traditions of the game’ but I doubt any one of these athletes support anything less accurate or technological methods to call a game their livelihood depends on. As a fan I agree, I want accuracy, not feelings.

[top dawg]

Good. We have the technology to make the game better, and we need to implement it sooner rather than later so that all the kinks can be worked out for the betterment of the product going well into the 21st century.

Edited April 10, 2022 by top dawg

[@bonafidebanter]

Working for network TV, let me remind you that humans work the "yellow line" for broadcast. You'd be surprised at how much they screw that up! If you pay attention during games now, you'll see it move forward or backwards sometimes to correct their errors! Good times!!

[KillerKat]

Even if more technology is added, there is still many grey area rules that are left up to the ref's judgement depending on who the NFL really wants to win that week.

[RJK]

Just another thing that’ll malfunction in foxboro, the superdome and KC on the reg 

[DaveThePanther2008]

4 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/09/usfl-to-eliminate-chains-measure-first-downs-with-chip-in-ball-and-yellow-line-on-tv/

The chains were more of a formality and always apart of the game.  

Many mention the chip in the ball so I would assume that will also help with erroneous spots. 

[Carl Spackler]

Panthers will still need 11 yards for a first down.

[glenwo2]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Doesn't really sound like it would make much difference, unfortunately. 

There are solutions to solving the problem in the NFL but they would likely be very expensive, so I doubt you will see them anytime soon.

It won't make a difference.

I read the article and it also said this :

The NFL already has a chip in every football, but it uses those chips only for its Next Gen Stats tracking data, and not for officiating. That’s because the chips in the middle of every ball just aren’t accurate enough to locate where a football is to the inch. The data works fine as a good approximation of where the ball is, give or take the length of one football. But it doesn’t tell you whether a third down play just barely picked up the first down, or whether the offense should be facing fourth-and-inches.

 

So unless they create footballs that have chips located at the tips of either side as well as the middle (which will be very costly to make), I don't foresee the NFL going this route.

[kungfoodude]

52 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

It won't make a difference.

I read the article and it also said this :

The NFL already has a chip in every football, but it uses those chips only for its Next Gen Stats tracking data, and not for officiating. That’s because the chips in the middle of every ball just aren’t accurate enough to locate where a football is to the inch. The data works fine as a good approximation of where the ball is, give or take the length of one football. But it doesn’t tell you whether a third down play just barely picked up the first down, or whether the offense should be facing fourth-and-inches.

 

So unless they create footballs that have chips located at the tips of either side as well as the middle (which will be very costly to make), I don't foresee the NFL going this route.

There are a bunch of different ways to skin that cat but they are all costly. The NFL isn't going to spend a bunch of money on that unless it helps their bottom line.

[Mother Grabber]

11 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Hopefully this does take effect and see if the accuracy of where the football is marked works or not.

tennis has been doing this for years for in/out calls, with accuracy much finer than football needs. the tech is fine.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

5 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

It won't make a difference.

I read the article and it also said this :

The NFL already has a chip in every football, but it uses those chips only for its Next Gen Stats tracking data, and not for officiating. That’s because the chips in the middle of every ball just aren’t accurate enough to locate where a football is to the inch. The data works fine as a good approximation of where the ball is, give or take the length of one football. But it doesn’t tell you whether a third down play just barely picked up the first down, or whether the offense should be facing fourth-and-inches.

 

So unless they create footballs that have chips located at the tips of either side as well as the middle (which will be very costly to make), I don't foresee the NFL going this route.

it's not like better tech doesn't exist. they're using the less accurate tech because it's good enough for it's current purpose. when you're just tracking general stats being off a few inches is fine.

still, there's tech that exists to be accurate down to a fraction of a centimeter. WAY more accurate than having a ref spot the ball. they definitely could implement this if they wanted.

i'm all for it, watching a ref just give away an extra yard and a half and a free first down is some serious BS.