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REPORT: Panthers have talked to numerous teams about moving back from #6


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7 minutes ago, John_Sutter said:

Okay but you’re implying that if you like a guy you should take him at your spot even if that’s bad value. I’m saying smart teams don’t do that, even with guys who have MVP ceilings. 
 

None of these QBs appear to have that kind of ceiling, so it would be bad use of draft capital to take that approach

No, you are interpreting what I said incorrectly, hence why I clarified. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We need to trade down.

I still think thats the best solution. Penning, Raimann, Lucas and a few more all can be LTs and drafted in the teens later. I like the LT group, even a few later round maybes. Just too many panther holes....

I think there are some real teams that want to trade up. DE group is worth it. Johnson is red hot right now with talk of the giants using their 5th rather than risk waiting for the 7th. 

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If we trade back out of the top-10, I think our targets need to change. There isn't a LT worth, say, the 18th pick unless Cross REALLY slides. At that point we'd be much better off moving away from LT as our target position and onto something like MLB, where we'd be in perfect position to grab Devin Lloyd or Nakobe Dean.

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The top 3 positions that get over drafted each year are

QB, the most important position

OT, the protector of the most important position

DE, the nemesis of the most important position

 

The trade down scenario will probably not involve a QB that someone wants to trade up for because none are all that impressive and can be had later.  OT is a deep group and the same applies.  But DE, there are 3 really good ones and then a major drop in talent.

Having the GA or Oregon kid there at 6 should generate some trade up offers.  My opinion for what it is worth

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56 minutes ago, John_Sutter said:

So then we agree that the optimum strategy is to trade back and take a LT and a QB if the cards fall right? Otherwise BPA?

If an elite LT or DE is available at 6, you do the smart thing and pull the trigger on those guys. You don't compound previous errors(wasting draft capital) by being cute and trying to gain back what you lost by making dumb mistakes.

If no elite LT or DE is available, then you try and trade down and see what happens.

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10 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

If Icky or Neal are there, take them. If  Cross is there, entertain offers.

What's wrong with Cross in your opinion to not be worth the 6th pick? I Know he supposedly is great with pass protection but haven't heard much about his run protection. What's your thoughts on him as it sounds like you have researched into him and the others more than me.

 

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31 minutes ago, davos said:

It would be kind of silly but the Jets need a weapon badly for Zach but likely go D high at 4. 

Maybe they just give us our second rounder back & 10 (plus a mid-late rounder) for #6. They grab Garret Wilson ahead of NYG and ATL.

Corey Davis is good and Elijah Moore

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