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Alexander predicts we get Garoppolo or Mayfield

Mr. Scot

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This "he's a winner" stuff has to stop. He sucks. He's a subpar QB who has been fortunate to play for some really good overall teams. Look at his playoff stats. They're Darnold level bad.

He stalls drives.  Just look at when he had the chance to drive them downfield late in the year, his drives deflated just like Darnolds.  I can see us buying either guy low if we just wait it out.  The only competition is really IND and SEA at this point, and there's a reason neither of them have lept up for either.  Lock and Ehlinger could arguably be just, if not even more effective.  Don't see PIT going for them either.

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Baker on a 1-year "prove it" fifth year deal is not the solution, but it could happen that way--if he balls out, they could lock him down, but I doubt anyone here would be happy about Baker at $40m per going forward.  He is up and and down. I would ask that Cleveland pays half his fifth year option.  And for 1 year, if the locker room sours with him, you let him go.     I dunno.  typing this made me feel slimy.  

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This "he's a winner" stuff has to stop. He sucks. He's a subpar QB who has been fortunate to play for some really good overall teams. Look at his playoff stats. They're Darnold level bad.

Sheesh, wouldn't it be nice to just have play off stats? It's been a long time since we've had any here.

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8 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Sheesh, wouldn't it be nice to just have play off stats? It's been a long time since we've had any here.

Jimmy Bridgewater (slightly exaggerated since he did have a one-hit wonder 27 TD season a couple of years ago) won't be the guy to get the team over that hurdle though. Of these two I'll take Mayfield, but it's one of the many less-than-ideal scenarios facing Carolina at the QB position right now. They really screwed the pooch with this stuff these past years.

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19 minutes ago, joemac said:

I believe I said the same thing recently and was drug thru the mud here by the usual suspects…

It's a terrible idea.

As far as plausibility though, yes it could happen.

Actually given our current leadership, it being a terrible idea might make it more likely to happen.

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21 minutes ago, NCTHFL0567 said:

I don't see how Cleveland gets anything they want for him at this point. If the DS's in the front office trade him for anything other than a 5th rounder they're not doing it right. So, I expect them to royally fug this up. 

....yea....got drug by the Jets...please don't get drug by Cleveland...

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we could get Mayfield for that I'd rather go that route than Jimmy G. Mayfield with an ego checking could be a good QB.

The only two vets I'd consider are Mayfield (for the right price) and Minshew. Minshew would preferably be brought in as a bridge while we develop (the thought of this staff developing a rookie QB 😂😂😂) a rookie.

I’d rather just have Minshew tbh. He has about 100x the charisma and poise that Darnold has. We’ve seen Baker and Jimmy G both with very good lines and run support. I’d like to see what Minshew does with a good supporting cast.
All the QBs in the draft are the same guy. Try to trade back a few spots, grab best o-line available and get one of the QBs  in the middle rounds. 

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32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we could get Mayfield for that I'd rather go that route than Jimmy G. Mayfield with an ego checking could be a good QB.

The only two vets I'd consider are Mayfield (for the right price) and Minshew. Minshew would preferably be brought in as a bridge while we develop (the thought of this staff developing a rookie QB 😂😂😂) a rookie.

I'm still sort of hoping that Minshew is part of a draft day trade with Philly to let them come up for a DE and we can get an OT plus whatever rookie QB Fitterer likes with the picks we get from Philly to groom under The Mustache.

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31 minutes ago, davos said:

He stalls drives.  Just look at when he had the chance to drive them downfield late in the year, his drives deflated just like Darnolds.  I can see us buying either guy low if we just wait it out.  The only competition is really IND and SEA at this point, and there's a reason neither of them have lept up for either.  Lock and Ehlinger could arguably be just, if not even more effective.  Don't see PIT going for them either.

matt ryan is on the colts 

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