Happy for Baker?

[hepcat]

Faker still sucks. McVay doing everything except throwing the ball. 

[Bear Hands]

He played very much like we've seen from him until that last drive. That big sideline pass and game winner were both better than anything he's done here.  He never did anything toxic here other than being very bad at football so whatevs, he gone.

[frankw]

I'll be surprised if he can sustain that level of play from their final drive and carry that over to more starts. Doesn't matter either way he was never going to be here next season. Anyways you should win when your opponent only puts up 16 points. Even Sam Darnold has done that for us big whoop.

[DeAngelo Beason]

It was one of two things:

The opponent was completely unprepared to play against him.

or

The Panthers really do have the most putrid passing system in the league.

[Varking]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

If you didn’t know before tonight, we’re a terrible franchise due to Tepper’s atrocious decision making. 

We’ve been a terrible franchise long before Tepper came around. I can’t think of any franchise in any other sport that hasn’t had back to back winning seasons at least once in their history. Even new franchises. Even the Jags. Only us. You can’t claim Richardson had us running well when we we couldn’t string together two winning seasons in a row in the 20 years or so he owned us. 

[Varking]

3 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

It was one of two things:

The opponent was completely unprepared to play against him.

or

The Panthers really do have the most putrid passing system in the league.

It’s both but it’s less the first one. Baker isn’t some scrambling QB you have to prep for. The gameplan for him would likely be the same as Stafford or the other backups they can plug in there. The Rams do a far better job at getting routes run that get the WRs open and Baker made throws. 
 

It felt like here we ran predictable plays resulting in a few guys getting open. Not because they can’t get open, but because the routes are so obvious it’s easy for the defender to stay on their hips. 

[Snake]

Just goes to show how trash this coaching staff is. McVeigh took Baker and made him a game managing winning QB. Wilks couldn't even get one good game out of him. This is why we need a better Head coach and staff. 

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

Yep, and when the coaches are that miserable you also look at the GM. They all need to go.

Id agree with you IF Fitt hired Rhule. He didn’t, so that’s not on him. 

This is Tepper’s failure.

[CPcavedweller]

Yeah I'm happy for him. It's proof positive that our offense sucks, honestly. It's horrible if Baker goes in on a short week and has his best game of the year with the Rams.

[BrianS]

39 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

To me, last night's game shows that Macadoo - doo is more of the problem than Baker was.  His scheme is predicable, out of date, and he basically never gave Baker a chance to cook.  He was the same way with PJ, and I imagine it will end up like that with Sam.

Wilkes needs to get this job.  If he can finish with 7 wins after cleaning up the mess from Rhule and Macadoo-doo he is a legit NFL coach.  Provide us with a competent OC, and we are in the playoffs next season.

No.  Wilkes should not get the full time gig.  He cannot fix the real problems here.  For a couple reasons. 

First off, defensive coaches are great to steady the ship and establish an identity.  Occasionally they will catch lightning in a bottle and put together a great run.  Overall there are many, many solid defensive coaches.  You can find tons of them.  Dom freaking Capers is still a quality NFL defensive mind.  Defense is easy to find and fix on the coaching side.

Secondly, if you want to succeed in the NFL today, you need a head coach who has a highly successful offensive background.  Not because you "need" that, but because if you bring in a coordinator who has any sort of success, he'll be gone in a year or two to be a head coach elsewhere.  If you want to sustain, your HC needs to be the offensive guy.

NFL teams are very in tune with this.  When you look at the guys who are being sought out for HC gigs, how many of them are "offensive" and how many are "defensive"?  It's just the way the league has gone.

Wilkes seems like a great guy, a great story.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be part of the staff.  Set aside all the feels.  The best way to have long term, sustainable success is to identify a quality offensive mind and make him your head coach.

[Greatman77]

Two things can be true at the same time: You can be glad Baker played well, and glad he is gone from the Panthers. I am both.

[Tbe]

8 minutes ago, BrianS said:

No.  Wilkes should not get the full time gig.  He cannot fix the real problems here.  For a couple reasons. 

First off, defensive coaches are great to steady the ship and establish an identity.  Occasionally they will catch lightning in a bottle and put together a great run.  Overall there are many, many solid defensive coaches.  You can find tons of them.  Dom freaking Capers is still a quality NFL defensive mind.  Defense is easy to find and fix on the coaching side.

Secondly, if you want to succeed in the NFL today, you need a head coach who has a highly successful offensive background.  Not because you "need" that, but because if you bring in a coordinator who has any sort of success, he'll be gone in a year or two to be a head coach elsewhere.  If you want to sustain, your HC needs to be the offensive guy.

NFL teams are very in tune with this.  When you look at the guys who are being sought out for HC gigs, how many of them are "offensive" and how many are "defensive"?  It's just the way the league has gone.

Wilkes seems like a great guy, a great story.  I'm not saying he shouldn't be part of the staff.  Set aside all the feels.  The best way to have long term, sustainable success is to identify a quality offensive mind and make him your head coach.

Here’s the thing…even if you are a ‘defensive’ guy at HC, you still need abilities on the other side of the ball. See McDermot. 

Wilks clearly doesn’t have those abilities. That’s a bad situation when your team is desperate for a QB.

The guy isn’t even a great DC. Above average at best.

He’s a good leader, but he’s not an X’s and O’s guy who can get players playing above their individual abilities.

[Dunn]

Panthers have a good chance of winning 4 of the next 5...so I'd rather focus on that then worry about people saying we are a dumpster fire when everything has changed over the last few months.

[Mr. Scot]

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