"We should have traded Burns" - a rebuttal

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, PantherPhann89 said:

How would that have helped us this draft? 

To move up if needed

[cookinbrak]

3 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

How would that have helped us this draft? 

I don't think folks understand there were no picks for this draft.

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

The only real reason to not trade Burns for that package is because it would have looked awful in regards to Wilks being able to have a legitimate year. CMC and RA all made sense and were great moves. Trading Burns would have looked bad. 

We can still trade him. Whatever but if he signs a giant new deal then expectations change real fast. 

Yessir! If we pay him like a great player, he needs to play like one. No more Shaq Thompson deals: great money, good player most of the time. Burns needs to be a great player all of the time. So far, he hasn't done that, which is the main reason why he's polarizing. 

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

I don't think folks understand there were no picks for this draft.

What about the 2nd that is pick #35-37 this year? Something I’m not understanding about that? 

[LinvilleGorge]

I should clarify here that I'm a fan of Burns. I think he's good and I think he has the potential to be great. He might already be great in a different defensive system. I'm just saying if I could time travel I'd go back and take that deal.

[mrcompletely11]

9 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

I don't think folks understand there were no picks for this draft.

False

[Mr Mojo Risin]

The problem is we are going to have to pay him like a top 5 DE when he isn't. Trade him for picks get some younger players to fill the void and they could possibly develop into better all around DE's than he is currently. He is a pass rush specialist and nothing more. The contract he is going to demand is not going to be worth it for a team that is in the position we're in

[WestPanthers]

10 minutes ago, Toomers said:

What about the 2nd that is pick #35-37 this year? Something I’m not understanding about that? 

So how you like the YGM picked? 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

So how you like the YGM picked? 

Huh?

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

So how you like the YGM picked? 

[Waldo]

23 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Yessir! If we pay him like a great player, he needs to play like one. No more Shaq Thompson deals: great money, good player most of the time. Burns needs to be a great player all of the time. So far, he hasn't done that, which is the main reason why he's polarizing. 

There have been some crazy numbers thrown around for his contract. I really disliked the 'getting paid for what I did yesterday' stuff. I wouldn't even have a problem asking him to play on his 5th year option. 7 sacks, 2 9 sack season and this year is 12.5? That is not top contract numbers and 7 total FFs where Hasaan has 5 just this year? 

Pay the man  fine but let's not be ridiculous about it. 

[ForJimmy]

50 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

I don't think folks understand there were no picks for this draft.

So if we trade our 1st, next year’s Rams or our 1st, and 1 of what would be our 3 2nd round picks to move up to 2 and draft Stroud we would still have a 1st in 24 left from that trade plus all of our picks. Future picks are great trade assets during the draft. 

[panfanman]

We missed the boat and that Ram's offer will be the best we see for him.  Like others said, we're 2 to 3 years out and don't need the baggage his new contract will demand.

 

But then again, I'm all about trading down in the draft every year and trading the best of the best to stay out of cap hell and get the most we can while the player is at their prime.  I was screaming for us to trade Cam immediately after his MVP season because I knew he wouldn't hold up with his style of play.  I also was screaming to trade CMC after his double K season.  I knew we'd run him into the ground the same way we did Cam.  I was right on both counts.

[Basbear]

I think the only reason to keep burns if fitt has already bounced terms off his reps and you got the reply " Brian wants to stay in carolina, its his top NFL goal".

Im not his biggest fan, but also know his age and 10+ sacks are close to elite QBs worth. 

Reddick was brought up and he signed a 3yr 45 mill deal......thats value. Using that scale for Burns, he should sign a similar deal if not less.......it will not happen tho... 

I Honestly cannot recall one play from the season with burns that was a late 4th quarter 3rd/4th down sack to help win the game. Did he have any game changing plays, or is it my poor memory?