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What if Stroud doesn’t declare for draft…

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3 hours ago, Tbe said:

The only good reason to stay would be if he thinks he’ll be an average or below QB in the NFL. If that’s the case, it makes sense to milk that Ohio state NIL before moving on to the pros where a big second contract (and playing time) isn’t guaranteed. 
 

That doesn’t make sense. He can go pro and get 20+ million dollars vs 4 million for staying in college. Luck stayed back a year and it damn sure wasn’t because the thought he would be an average or below average QB in the NFL. 

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3 hours ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

I saw FL had an offer of something like $13  million in NIL to a high school recruit. Imagine what kind of NIL deal Stroud could get to stay 1 year. Certainly more than a rookie contract.

$13m over 4 years, which they couldn't actually back up. 

Stroud might want to stay so he can actually win a big game in College before he leaves - who knows. 

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3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Surely it drives the value of the #1 pick down unless you want to Draft a 5'10" QB at #1 overall. 

You can have your personal opinion of Young, but there’s plenty of teams that need QBs and one less of the elite makes the number 1 pick that much more valuable. 

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4 hours ago, Waldo said:

No idea why he would stay. I get hyping himself up, good move, but going back isn't going to help his draft stock and 4 million is a drop in the bucket if he can get a big 2nd NFL contract with even the rookie pay being well above that. If he was avoiding a team then just tell them 'no' like Eli did. Yeah he would get crapped on for it but going to a team that is a good fit and not a desperate loser mess is just good business IMO. 

Going this year or next year wont affect that big second deal though.  Heck if you're confident you're great then if you're just worried about that second deal, the way the rookie contracts scale its probably better to go in the second round so you bypass that 5th year option if you really want to gamble. 

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1 hour ago, Tr3ach said:

Going this year or next year wont affect that big second deal though.  Heck if you're confident you're great then if you're just worried about that second deal, the way the rookie contracts scale its probably better to go in the second round so you bypass that 5th year option if you really want to gamble. 

Going now get's him there a lot sooner than waiting another year. It's football so waiting is the riskier bet anyway you look at it. The money is actually a huge deal since waiting another year won't raise his value but could lower it.

In 2022 the first pick had a contract of $37.3 million and the 33rd pick had a contract of $9.3. Again, go when you are at the highest point to get the biggest 4 year deal. If the player is worth a big 2nd contract and they get a PB then the 5th year option is $30 mil (looking at Burrow)for him so again we are talking huge paydays here. Plus he gets another $2 mil bump for another PB.

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2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Surely it drives the value of the #1 pick down unless you want to Draft a 5'10" QB at #1 overall. 

It drive the value up because there would be less top-end prospects in the draft at the position. It would come down to Young and Levis and Richardson being the only round 1 guys. So if you are a team committed to picking QB early in the draft it lessens the amount of choices you have. 

For instance, if Levis and Richardson returned to school it would leave Young as the only top QB in the draft. So every team would be competing to trade for just 1 guy. Folks were likely going into this thinking if you can’t get Young then Stroud is a heck of a consolation prize. 

Read most of the takes here on the draft order and folks typically have Stoud and Young close together and then there’s a massive drop to 3 and 4 for Levis and Richardson. This would drastically widen the gap between Young and the new #2 so you can trade to first overall and know you got your guy or risk waiting and have to settle for a “significantly lesser” QB on paper. 

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