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New Coach Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo


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15 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Jesus Christ its really gonna come down to Steve Wilks vs Steichen.

That is such a wild final 2. One an older defensive minded huge mistake waiting to happen; one a high risk/high reward young OC. 

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2 minutes ago, philit99 said:

Hum it is now being reported that a “mystery team” is watching the Payton situation. It might be time to saddle up? Wow

Could McCarthy be available soon?

I would take McCarthy for a 3rd if he brings Dan Quinn as DC.

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1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

Ok. Give me results. Results on the field since he has owned the team? I beg to differ, the product on the FOOTBALL field has continued to regress and he refuses to do sane and rational things.

One of the most important things, in my opinion, that a new owner...or any owner for that matter...can show is patience.  Let's say he pulled Irsay or McNair no one really wants to work for them.  Not learning would mean Payton would be hired, sure Rhule was the wrong choice, but he wanted to make a splash and he did!  Many were on board with that when we hired him including me; and I don't think him showing patience with Rhule was a bad thing.  But I'm with you, I want results, that's why I think he is learning, he knows he can't just hire someone like he did with Rhule, he and the organization are taking their time, doing the interviews, doing the research and hoping the make the right decision this time whether its a splash (Payton) or what we, as fans feel is a dud (Wilks) but "RIGHT" none the less

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4 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

No he's not. When has Wilks had even a decent QB? Never is the answer. 

When has he punted the football at midfield on 4th and 1 against the greatest QB of all time in a win or go home situation?

twice is the answer.

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20 minutes ago, travisura said:

I'm already mentally preparing for it to be Wilks. At least then it'll be expected and I won't feel as let down.

Yep and then we'll get months of fluff about how much the players love him. Then at some point in the season we'll get the doors blown off by a real contender and we'll get the same excuses again. We know our Carolina Panthers by now.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yep and then we'll get months of fluff about how much the players love him. Then at some point in the season we'll get the doors blown off by a real contender and we'll get the same excuses again. We know our Carolina Panthers by now.

Mentally prepared to read one morning Breaking News : Wilks to be the Panthers Head Coach

So that way, when I actually see Steichen to be the Panthers Head Coach, i'd basically faint.

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15 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

No he's not. When has Wilks had even a decent QB? Never is the answer. 

So what you are saying is Wilks will suck without a QB to carry his ass just like Rivera. 
We all know Rivera was being carried by Cam and Luke and we are seeing in Washington what kinda coach Rivera really is. 
Mediocre. Which is you precious Wilks ceiling. 

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5 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Not sure that applies if it’s a trade

It would probably be something like this:

CAR Receives:

Mike McCarthy

DAL Receives:

Sean Payton

NO Receives:

2023 DAL 1st Round

2023 CAR 3rd Round

It would probably bypass the Rooney Rule.

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