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Carr’s destination betting odds

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43 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

Exactly.  They have been bottom 5 in scoring defense for at least 6 years.  You need some sort of balance. 

The idea Carr is a retread is so lazy.  Carr is solid and should continue to play at a high level for at least 3-4 more years.

Carr went 6-9 in his starts last year.  8 of the 9 losses were 1 score games.  His defense was probably the worst in the league.  Carr could be a really sneaky smart move, especially if he doesn't have to win every game single-handedly. 

Putting Carr on this team immediately makes us the favorite for the division and hosting playoff games for then next several years.  Use #9 on a WR, then grab a TE in the second.  Spend the rest on defense and let our new superstar coaches go to work.  

 

The state of the division makes Carr more appealing to me. If we were in the AFC I'd be against it. But the NFC is overall significantly weaker. We can make a run in the NFC with Derek Carr, a good overall off-season, and legit coaching. Just my opinion

 

 

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Carr would be a top 3 QB in the conference,  the team definitely needs to go get their own guy but if there’s a scenario where they can rent him and still draft a guy it’s worth sticking your toes in the water on

Would rather make the big play to move up for their guy but I could understand sticking your nose in, at least if for no other reason than to drive the asking price up for new orleans

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40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We have a whole offseason coming up shortly...

winning now requires immediate fixes though.   That would mean free agents.   I think we got too many holes. 

guess it also depends what a persons meaning of win now is.  win now for me means actually trying to win a ring.  to a lot of Panther fans it might just mean 9-8 and losing first round in the playoffs.   Which would be excitement not seen in some time. 

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9 minutes ago, Growl said:

Carr on a rental with the 9th pick on Richardson is worth inquiring about

This would be my preference but I think Carr is going to interview with teams and make sure someone is going to commit to him. If you signed him then drafted a QB in the 1st I think he'd go ballistic because you will have flat out lied to him.

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