Reported asking price from Raiders for #1

[Peon Awesome]

https://thecomeback.com/nfl/bears-raiders-draft-asking-price.html

Stumbled on this article that said Chicago wanted the following from the Raiders for the #1 pick:

Pick 7

Pick 38

2 Future 1sts (Presumably 2024 and 2025)

Future 2nd

 

Let's compare to what we gave:

Pick 9, Pick 61, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, DJ Moore

 

Let's assume they were OK with a 2025 2nd from Las Vegas to simplify things.

That means DJ Moore was valued as:

2025 1st

Value needed to get from pick 61 to 38 (at least an extra 2nd)

Value between pick 9 and 7 (probably a 3rd and 4th?)

 

That would put DJ's perceived value by Chicago as roughly a future 1st, 2nd, 3rd AND 4th.

Even if you assume Chicago would have to come down a bit since that was too much for the Raiders and that some of this was posturing, even anything close to that is tremendous value for DJ. It sucks to lose him, but in this case I think it justifies the price.

 

[ForJimmy]

We lost a great young WR who was probably a really good WR2, but without a QB it didn’t matter. We pretty much wasted a great weapon in CMC by never having a QB. It had to be done…

[CPF4LIFE]

33 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What's done is done.

 

We finally get our franchise QB for the next 10+ years hopefully.

Im starting to think 10+ years depends a lot on who we pick.

[Jay Roosevelt]

It had to be done.

[LinvilleGorge]

Weak WR FA class and a weak draft class at WR if you're looking for a #1. It all helped to drive DJ's value up. The Bears WANTED DJ.

[*FreeFua*]

On 3/10/2023 at 4:53 PM, *FreeFua* said:

Yeah…

Some of us wanted to take that 1st and change for DJ at the deadline. I feel like we basically got that with including him in this trade 

We swap 1’s this year. Giving up SF 2nd rounder this year. Then we’re out our 1st next year and our 2nd the following year 

Including DJ allowed us to save our 2025 1st rounder and change 

I really think we did quite well considering we WERE picking 9th

I said that as soon as the trade happened 

Including DJ allowed for us to send SF’s 2nd rounder instead of ours which is a pretty big deal

Then obviously we got to keep our 1st rounder in 2025

If we end up trading a 3rd or 4th for Nuk to replace DJ then we really did do well

[Camp Fodder]

4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Including DJ allowed for us to send SF’s 2nd rounder instead of ours which is a pretty big deal

This has not been mentioned enough. This is like 25-30 picks sooner that what the niners 2nd rounder is. 

[bLACKpANTHER]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

We lost a great young WR who was probably a really good WR2, but without a QB it didn’t matter. We pretty much wasted a great weapon in CMC by never having a QB. It had to be done…

U Makin me depressed.. but facts tho

[Hoenheim]

Without a consistently good QB what does a decent to good WR mean in the grand scheme of things? 

Saw a lot of other NFL fans and talking heads saying we lost the trade badly mostly bemoaning the loss of DJ

Steve Smith did a pretty good en depth analysis of DJs stats over the years and basically he isn't anywhere near as dominant as people make him out to be . 

Near the beginning of the video when he's talking about DJ with the panthers. You'd be suprised how middling/average ish  he ranks in a lot of categories. 

Nobody arguing that DJ isnt GOOD but my problem is all these people making it seem like we gave up a 25 year old Jerry rice.

Start around 14 min mark.

 

https://youtu.be/iWWEyZRP_qc

Edited March 19, 2023 by Hoenheim

[onmyown]

2 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

https://thecomeback.com/nfl/bears-raiders-draft-asking-price.html

Stumbled on this article that said Chicago wanted the following from the Raiders for the #1 pick:

Pick 7

Pick 38

2 Future 1sts (Presumably 2024 and 2025)

Future 2nd

 

Let's compare to what we gave:

Pick 9, Pick 61, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, DJ Moore

 

Let's assume they were OK with a 2025 2nd from Las Vegas to simplify things.

That means DJ Moore was valued as:

2025 1st

Value needed to get from pick 61 to 38 (at least an extra 2nd)

Value between pick 9 and 7 (probably a 3rd and 4th?)

 

That would put DJ's perceived value by Chicago as roughly a future 1st, 2nd, 3rd AND 4th.

Even if you assume Chicago would have to come down a bit since that was too much for the Raiders and that some of this was posturing, even anything close to that is tremendous value for DJ. It sucks to lose him, but in this case I think it justifies the price.

 

for a wr that racked up yards in trash time and disappears when poo gets hard (redzone) averaging 3-4 TDs a season…Feilds won’t be bailed out by DJ in the end zone and you don’t give up those kind of picks for that…hell they could’ve traded less for cmc lol

well has a Fit non believer I will admit was a good deal for us and the only reason it isn’t great is we have nothing left WR wise…like nothing

 But I’ll take good

[bobcat91]

It had to be done or we were going to continually be a 5 to 7 win team going nowhere. DJ is a good, not great WR. On most teams he's a #2 but had to be #1 because we are one of the bottom in the league wr units. 

[NAS]

It shows we did not overpay at all.  Just get the pick right.