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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have no idea if I'd draft AR or not. It all comes down to his interviews, background checks, and just your overall feel for who he is and what he can develop into. There's no question about the talent. But most busts have plenty of talent.

I'd be super excited if we drafted him because that means our very experienced coaches think he has what it takes and that they can get him there.

I think ultimately Stroud will be the pick, but Richardson would be the brass balls sitting on your desk, push all your chips into the middle of the table and have trust in your convictions / expensively assembled coaching staff move. 

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18 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Feel like if we draft AR all this hype will end with a wet fart. 
Not saying AR can’t be successful. Just find it weird that we trade up to 1 only to draft a player that may of been there at 9. 
A player that won’t be able to start for a long time. We are talking 1 to 2 seasons. If he is ever ready. 

 

The key word being may. Trading to 1 elements any scenarios where may is involved.  They have their choice now and plenty of time to ensure that it's a fully informed choice.  Whether it's the right one or it even works out is another thing entirely. 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I have no idea if I'd draft AR or not. It all comes down to his interviews, background checks, and just your overall feel for who he is and what he can develop into. There's no question about the talent. But most busts have plenty of talent.

I'd be super excited if we drafted him because that means our very experienced coaches think he has what it takes and that they can get him there.

I just hope we don’t take him 1st overall. Of course it would be a completely Panthers thing to draft a project player that high. 
If they trade back I will start thinking they probably will take AR. 
I don’t think they are crazy enough to take him 1st overall. 

 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have no idea if I'd draft AR or not. It all comes down to his interviews, background checks, and just your overall feel for who he is and what he can develop into. There's no question about the talent. But most busts have plenty of talent.

I'd be super excited if we drafted him because that means our very experienced coaches think he has what it takes and that they can get him there.

I certainly think we have a very sound coaching staff. 

developing super raw QB?  Not sure that’s anyone’s  speciality in Carolina. 

Richardson just seems like the risky possible play there could be.  And we are giving up a lot for the pick.  I just want a functional QB.   I don’t care if they are a HOFer.   I want a higher floor than Richardson has 

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7 minutes ago, rayzor said:

AR is a project. I mean they are all projects, but AR is going to take a whole lot of work compared Stroud and Young. 

I was fine with AR being the pick at 9. I'd be ok with it at even 5. But you don't trade up from 9 to 1 for a project of that magnitude. You better be damn sure you can get him rolling in year one or at the latest year 2. 

If they pick him and he isn't ready to go after a year or two then everyone involved in that pick should be fired.

That's one big fuging gamble and I'm inclined to think it's a fools bet at 1, especially since that 1 is so damn expensive, costing us 2 first rounders, 2 later rounders, and a first round talent WR.

And your right, it would be an absolute waste of resources making the whole team, especially including recent acquisitions making them wait for a year.

Its just much more likely to blow up in our faces if we did that.

Isn't it the same risk with Young?

You take the smallest first round QB ever with an average NFL arm and suddenly realise his improvisational play doesn't fly in the NFL where everyone is bigger, stronger, faster and the windows are much tighter? That's not to mention the injury issue. 

This entire discussion is why I wouldn't have traded up to #1, but here we are. 

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19 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Of the 4 top qb's to attend the combine only 1 qb took part every drill and every measurement. That guy wasn't afraid that he may look bad or inferior in some manner compared to his competition.  Guess who that was? That guy shows courage and determination.  Their actions or should I say inactions said more to me about these guys than how they threw the ball in shorts.

The NFL combine is fan fare. Players do it all

again on their pro days. Players are measured when they do visits to teams. There is nothing from the combine that should play any role in deciding your quarterback.

we are merely a couple years away from the combine not even being in existence. don’t put stock in it to judge a player. That’s not the right place to put any energy, considering these kids are advised on what to do and not to do by people who have a strong understanding of their draft day fate.

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

The NFL combine is fan fare. Players do it all

again on their pro days. Players are measured when they do visits to teams. There is nothing from the combine that should play any role in deciding your quarterback.

we are merely a couple years away from the combine not even being in existence. don’t put stock in it to judge a player. That’s not the right place to put any energy, considering these kids are advised on what to do and not to do by people who have a strong understanding of their draft day fate.

You think the NFL is going to get rid of the combine? That's like the only viewership NFL network gets for March

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24 minutes ago, CRA said:

I certainly think we have a very sound coaching staff. 

developing super raw QB?  Not sure that’s anyone’s  speciality in Carolina. 

Richardson just seems like the risky possible play there could be.  And we are giving up a lot for the pick.  I just want a functional QB.   I don’t care if they are a HOFer.   I want a higher floor than Richardson has 

I'd honestly rather end up with a bust than a Kirk Cousins type. You gotta have an MVP caliber QB to compete for SBs with any regularity. 

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