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Dan Graziano: People in the league believe Panthers drafting CJ Stroud

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Breer on the QB question...

From Fid (@RandyFidler): You're the Panthers GM draft day. Who are you selecting and who would you target with the 2nd round pick to complement?

I think Bryce Young. Everything I’ve heard about Young as a kid is A-plus-plus. His OC from Alabama, Bill O’Brien, told teams in the fall he’s never had a player like Young, and O’Brien coached Tom Brady. Scouts will tell you his accuracy, instincts, pocket movement, football IQ, competitiveness and toughness are all A-plus. I’ve also heard he absolutely blew away Carolina coach Frank Reich when they sat down and talked football.

If he was 6'3" and 220 pounds, there’d be no discussion. He’d be the first overall pick. But he’s not, and that is not a cursory issue for teams.

And it could be a problem for Young, too, because CJ Stroud does have closer-to-prototype size (6'3", 214 pounds) for the position, and brings a lot of what Young does to the table. The questions with him are more on his willingness to run, put his body on the line and create off-schedule—things he actually did flash in his final college game, which happened to be a national semifinal against Georgia.

Ultimately, I think there’s a good chance Stroud winds up going first, because he’s close enough to Young traits-wise, and you’re well within the scouting guardrails size-wise for a quarterback with him. But I’ve heard enough people call Young special—really special—to the point where it’d be hard for me to pass on him.

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With our OL, the rules to protect QBs, and our defense, you have to think this would be the best landing spot for Young.  (If you are wondering how the defense protects Young, you have to consider situational football.  If Young is not playing from behind, he can throw the ball away, slide, or hit the checkdown more often.  Forcing things when you are behind is a way to get hurt.)

That is not to say that I think they will take Young--it is to say that Young should be praying for Carolina over Houston.

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12 minutes ago, rayzor said:

where are they hearing this?

i think at this point it's all assumptions and opinions for any of them. 

 

League meetings? The collection of all 32 NFL coaches? Seems they could get a sense of where things are heading this week easily.

And I'm not mad about it. The more I watch Brcye, the more I think he's just a good college QB. Small, lacks elite traits of any kind physically, lacks zip on the ball, played at Bama with Metchie and Williams.

Think Tua may actually have been better but I think both will be back-ups on their 2nd contract. The Dolphins would offload Tua if they could. 

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Breer on the QB question...

From Fid (@RandyFidler): You're the Panthers GM draft day. Who are you selecting and who would you target with the 2nd round pick to complement?

I think Bryce Young. Everything I’ve heard about Young as a kid is A-plus-plus. His OC from Alabama, Bill O’Brien, told teams in the fall he’s never had a player like Young, and O’Brien coached Tom Brady. Scouts will tell you his accuracy, instincts, pocket movement, football IQ, competitiveness and toughness are all A-plus. I’ve also heard he absolutely blew away Carolina coach Frank Reich when they sat down and talked football.

If he was 6'3" and 220 pounds, there’d be no discussion. He’d be the first overall pick. But he’s not, and that is not a cursory issue for teams.

And it could be a problem for Young, too, because CJ Stroud does have closer-to-prototype size (6'3", 214 pounds) for the position, and brings a lot of what Young does to the table. The questions with him are more on his willingness to run, put his body on the line and create off-schedule—things he actually did flash in his final college game, which happened to be a national semifinal against Georgia.

Ultimately, I think there’s a good chance Stroud winds up going first, because he’s close enough to Young traits-wise, and you’re well within the scouting guardrails size-wise for a quarterback with him. But I’ve heard enough people call Young special—really special—to the point where it’d be hard for me to pass on him.

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Close to Young traits wise? Close. More zip, better accuracy, better pocket presence, whole field reads, kills plays at rhe line..

The only thing Stroud isn't better at is scrambling and throwing off platform.

Everyone recall 2020, when Zac Wilson was the talk of the town because of "Arm angles" and "ability to create". That's Bryce Young this year. 

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