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Official Sound off like you got a pair Panthers Draft predictions thread

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DamnItJake! Grand Master

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't see us drafting at #39 and then sitting patiently until while 54 picks get made before we're back on the clock. A potential trade down from #39 makes sense. Seeing Jeremy Chinn moved wouldn't shock me. I hope we don't do it but we sure have made moves to make it possible.

Blasphemy!! They better not trade Chinn !! I will be pissed!! 

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Avila or Mauch could be a great get in R2 in a trade down scenario, but otherwise, I think we stay away from most, if not ALL OL until the later rounds.  I agree with a few of the anonymous reports via McGinn that GM & Scouts think this is the worst OL in recent memory.  No sense in forcing ourselves to pick a position.  

WR is also bad, but there's some potential bloomers scattered in the mid rounds.   Not many at all though, which is why you see nearly every fanbase mocking Mingo or Scott to their team.  

This draft is just shining bright with EDGE, TEs, RBs, & CBs. 

My guess is we have very specific player targets.

 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just saying. Him and Von Bell are basically redundant. Don't be shocked if it happens. Like Fitts said, you can't re-sign everybody.

With Burns and Brown having contracts coming due it might be a good idea to trade Chinn sooner vs later.  

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19 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

With Burns and Brown having contracts coming due it might be a good idea to trade Chinn sooner vs later.  

We've made the moves to potentially do it. I thought we were gonna sign a safety but I expected a FS type. That's still low key one of our bigger roster holes. I see folks talking about WR, CB, EDGE, etc. but FS isn't far behind IMO.

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17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just saying. Him and Von Bell are basically redundant. Don't be shocked if it happens. Like Fitts said, you can't re-sign everybody.

I disagree. I think the addition of bell will allow Chinn to play more of a joker/hybrid role and stay in the box where he shines best. 

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4 minutes ago, Coheed said:

I disagree. I think the addition of bell will allow Chinn to play more of a joker/hybrid role and stay in the box where he shines best. 

I theory yes, but with Woods, Bell, and Chinn being similar he becomes a little expendable. Especially if we sign/draft a true FS like @LinvilleGorgewas mentioning. 

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(1)  Bryce Young, QB  (Alabama)

(39)  Will McDonald IV, Edge  (Iowa St.)

(93)  Darius Rush, CB  (S. Carolina)

(114)  Jonathan Mingo, WR  (OMiss)

(132)  Chandler Zavala, OG  (NC St.)

(145)  Zack Kuntz, TE  (Old Dominion) 

                               or

           Nick Hampton, Edge/LB  (App St.)

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On 4/20/2023 at 11:09 AM, Panthers L said:

The Panthers take Bryce Young with the number one overall pick, no doubt.

Though, this will be a decision that haunts us for several years once we all use common sense to realize that a 5'10 194 pound QB can't sustain himself in professional football.

I am sure you'll be rooting him to fail, so you can be right, and say "I told you so." 

 

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19 hours ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Here’s my take: I think Darnell Washington is overrated and would be a bad pick at 39. I know he’s apparently some freak athlete but when I watch his film he looks clunky and labored. Basically zero production as a pass catcher, sure he may be a beast of a blocker but don’t we already have someone that’s supposed to fill that role in Tremble? I don’t think I’ll be thrilled if we take him high.

haven’t really watched him, can’t comment much. Will say im pretty burned out on the “we’re gonna transform this athletic run blocker into an elite pass catching TE.”

dc how tall he is, let’s try drafting a guy whose already good at the position

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On 4/21/2023 at 4:11 PM, tukafan21 said:

I'm so sick of this argument

As The Athletic's article today points out, since 2000 there have been 368 QB's who have played in the league, only 9 of them have been under 6 feet.  Yes, as I've said it's not about his height, but his frame/weight/bulk, but that number would be even smaller if looking for players of Young's size.

To make any significant revelation based on a sample size like that, it's just flat out ignorant and is only used by teams publicly as a way to help sell it to their fan base.

Nobody arguing against Young due to his size is saying bigger QB's are guaranteed to stay healthier, but it's just common sense to say a 5'10" 190 lbs QB has a higher probability to get injured than someone 6'2" and 215 lbs.  Yes, anyone could get hurt on any given play, but if you put those two sized QB's up for comparison and you had to pick one or the other as to who is more likely to get injured, you'd have to be fooling yourself to say there isn't even a slightly better chance of the smaller player being injured more often than the bigger player there.

No, there are no guarantees, but the people asking for past examples/proof of smaller QB's being more injury prone, and leaning on a sample size of 9 out of 368, is just completely asinine in itself.

Hell, even if all 9 of those guys kept getting hurt and thus helping my argument, I'd still say it's far too small of a sample size to be used in these discussions.

 

If you're modeling the relationship between two variables (i.e. weight and injury risk, in this case), then it doesn't really matter if you're encountering a new data point that is the lowest on record (i.e. Bryce Young's size).  Your model doesn't suddenly crash and burn and become invalidated.  In the simplest terms, I'm sure once upon a time you've heard of the formula Y = mx + b.  Y is your dependent variable (injury risk), m is your slope (basically how impactful weight is for injury risk), x is your independent variable (weight), and b is a constant.  So if there is truly a statistically significant correlation between weight and injury risk, then even if Bryce Young was 40 pounds, you can still plug that into your model and determine the injury risk.  It's very basic statistical analysis/linear regression.

Also even if there was never a sub-200 pound QB in the history of the league, you can still determine if there's a correlation between size and injury risk.  Do 200 pound QBs get more injured than 220 pound QBs, who get more injured than 240 pound QBs?  

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