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Bryce so far ahead that they feel they can expand their offensive playbook


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8 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

The view I'm getting from these comments about Young is that his ability to understand and apply nfl level concepts is that of a more seasoned veteran.  It's kinda caught the staff off guard a bit and that's a good thing. It may not sound like much but it is a blessing in disguise.  

I still worry about him “anticipating” at a college speed for his first year in the NFL and getting baited by some NFL safeties. It’s not a big deal for a rookie QB obviously. If he starts dinking and dunking defenses like Brees or Brady I’ll be really impressed. 

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19 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

I still worry about him “anticipating” at a college speed for his first year in the NFL and getting baited by some NFL safeties. It’s not a big deal for a rookie QB obviously. If he starts dinking and dunking defenses like Brees or Brady I’ll be really impressed. 

He will get a taste of what an nfl defense is really like when the pads go on. The Jets defense will show him what he can get away with and what he can't in training camp.  He  has some adjusting to do before we know what we have in him.

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Of course he still has to adjust to game speed moments. 

Why is it we can't talk about how good this kid is, without bringing him down?

Too much feel goods? You guys don't know how to handle that as Panther fans? Scared some short stack is going to be a better QB then Cam ever was?

What is it? 

The kid is thriving.  Which means no Matter how you look at it, he's going to be fun to watch come game time. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only seasoned vet we have in the WR corps is Thielen.

Chark has played 5 seasons, Byrd has played 7, and Hurst has played 5.

Those 4 when combined with Thielen is more than enough pass catching experience in this league to help a rookie QB if needed, while Laviska and TMJ have 3 and 2 seasons themselves.

WR is probably one of the easier positions to master in the NFL in regards of knowing routes and concepts, actually executing them is something else of course, but it doesn't take long to mentally learn the craft of a  WR in the league.

If I was worried about any unit picking up a new offense quickly enough to execute as needed, it would be the OL.  Sure we have some great players along the line, but Week 1 we might be stating a rookie at RG, a second year player at LT, and a third year player at LG.  

Yea that was a great unit for us last year and we've got vet experience at C and RT, but that's still a young OL, running new concepts, with a QB that it is even more important to keep upright given his size and injury risk if he's getting hit a lot.

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1 hour ago, Donald LaFell said:

I still worry about him “anticipating” at a college speed for his first year in the NFL and getting baited by some NFL safeties. It’s not a big deal for a rookie QB obviously. If he starts dinking and dunking defenses like Brees or Brady I’ll be really impressed. 

Yeah he's throwing against STO and Keith Taylor with no pass rush currently. Jets joint practice will be the first real test to see if he's this so far advanced

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3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Of course he still has to adjust to game speed moments. 

Why is it we can't talk about how good this kid is, without bringing him down?

Too much feel goods? You guys don't know how to handle that as Panther fans? Scared some short stack is going to be a better QB then Cam ever was?

What is it? 

The kid is thriving.  Which means no Matter how you look at it, he's going to be fun to watch come game time. 

Maybe they never got off the CJ train. Pre draft they were a bunch of folks making short jokes and talking out they butts like Ace Ventura. Some but not all were likely Trolls but still talking out they butts. One more time BUTTS. Oh lastly  those people are arseholes. 

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This time of year the club loves to pump up the gullible fan base with fictitious hyperbole in preparation for the start of the season.  It happens every year.  They get us all worked up and excited that either "this is our year" or "this is our guy".

 

Think it's best just to sit and wait until about week 8 (heck maybe into year 2) before we think we know anything.  Just being realistic after years of being let down.

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8 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only seasoned vet we have in the WR corps is Thielen.

Why not DJ Chark? This is his 6th year in the league. You’d have to consider him a seasoned vet… considering majority of the players in the nfl don’t make it past year 4 in the league.

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Sheesh, some people in here come across as really miserable when it comes to dunking on people for being excited about positive news regarding Bryce lol. 

Like yeah sure, does he still have to prove himself in pads/games? Absolutely. In the same vein though, I’d much rather get reports about my rookie QB excelling at the mental aspect of the game (which is typically the hardest thing to adapt to) then to hear about him struggling in mini-camp/OTA’s. 
 

It’s fair to temper expectations, but my God, we haven’t had a reason for hope around here in like 5 years. Let people enjoy themselves. 

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16 hours ago, jb2288 said:

counterpoint, the QB has way more on their plate they are usually the bottleneck. QB has to know every route, protection, and read the defense. and that's just for passing downs. 

Mingo for example SHOULD be able to pick up the playbook much faster than a rookie QB should be able to. 

Correct.

Understanding that the progressions for a certain route tree might change against Cover 2 is a lot different from "on this play, run here."

(that's over simplified of course, but the point is valid)

16 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Also no pads and he's throwing to Thielen/Chark etc against STO and Keith Taylor. I'm not gonna buy into the fluff too much until Jets practice where he's going against Sauce and the rest of that D

They're talking about his understanding of the concepts, though. Pads or no pads doesn't necessarily affect that.

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16 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

There's been no thick with the Hornets. It's been horrible for decades. The most excitement we ever had was with LJ, Muggsy, Zo and Dell. 

I enjoyed those Davis, Wesley, Mashburn, and Elden Campbell Hornets. We were one game away from making the ECF. But I get your point, even that was back in like 2001.

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