Panthers-Charlotte current stadium agreement ends.

[Toker Smurf]

5 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

The NFL is making plans to expand to 40 teams. 

The Panthers aren't going anywhere. 

Wouldn’t surprise me. That makes the math easy. Ten 4 team divisions between two conferences with a full division in Europe. 

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

you say this but the data tells a different story... year over year Panthers are worth more to the NFL than the following teams when its comes to total revenue:

 

• Detroit Lions - $452 million ($114 million)
• Cincinnati Bengals - $462 million ($89 million)
• Arizona Cardinals - $467 million ($112 million)
• Buffalo Bills -  $470 million ($83 million)
• Jacksonville Jaguars -  $471 million ($114 million)
• Tennessee Titans - $481 million ($115 million)
• Indianapolis Colts - $484 million ($100 million)
• New Orleans Saints - $490 million ($125 million)
• Los Angeles Chargers - $491 million ($156 million)
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers - $492 million ($62 million)
• Pittsburgh Steelers - $494 million ($135 million)
• Kansas City Chiefs - $495 million ($135 million)
• Minnesota Vikings - $500 million ($141 million)
• Carolina Panthers - $501 million ($139 million)

What this tells us is that the Charlotte market is a very healthy Market for the NFL. They would not want to risk any transition revenue. When the Chargers and Rams moved from their original locations the NFL lost money. NFL isnt in the business to lose money.

And would the franchise make less if it moved somewhere else.

And fwiw, We have seen in the past that the NFL as a whole doesn't necessarily decide if, when and where teams move.  Usually the teams themselves decide, and the owners give assent.  And I don't remember the owners ever not giving assent if one of their fellow owners want to move.  The Chargers move was idiotic, and yet the other owners still agreed.  

  

Regardless, I don't think the team is moving.

Edited July 2, 2023 by Davidson Deac II

[TheCasillas]

11 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

And would the franchise make less if it moved somewhere else.

And fwiw, We have seen in the past that the NFL as a whole doesn't necessarily decide if, when and where teams move.  Usually the teams themselves decide, and the owners give assent.  And I don't remember the owners ever not giving assent if one of their fellow owners want to move.  The Chargers move was idiotic, and yet the other owners still agreed.  

  

Regardless, I don't think the team is moving.

Raiders destination uncertain after NFL nixes LA move

Edited July 2, 2023 by TheCasillas

[dave-o]

8 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Gastonia Cougars

Those Gastonia Cougars are missing a few teeth and smoke Marlboro Reds....

[CashNewton22]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here comes the fleecing and yet another government handout to a billionaire while that same government entity will say they don't have the funds for infrastructure and other basic community needs.

And here comes CashNewton pulling up to whatever the name of the stadium is still being a Panthers fan regardless of the situation being glad they didn’t leave lol  

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

aint no fuging way people are in this thread posting that atlanta is barely bigger than raleigh

[TheMostInterestingMan]

16 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Gastonia Cougars

We got enough of those around 

[Thorrez]

With LA gone the real price is Austin/San Antonio. But there is no way that happens before while Jones is alive as it eats into "his" market.

The smart business move is to just sit for now and either move out demand a lot of money when it does.

[OceanPanther]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Here comes the fleecing and yet another government handout to a billionaire while that same government entity will say they don't have the funds for infrastructure and other basic community needs.

The fleecing comment may be true,,  but it's also how business is done in the NFL and has been for a very long time.  We can paint Tepper a bad guy if we like, but he won't be doing anything different that the other owners do. It's just part of the having an NFL team in todays world in my opinion.

[Louie]

21 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Gastonia Cougars

They looked at Gastonia, but decided that it was just full of Cowboy fans!

[pantherclaw]

16 hours ago, OldhamA said:

There isn't enough talent for 40 teams, hell it's diluted enough as is. 

No argument from me. Just passing along what I know. 

[BrewerHouseBeer]

Pretty sure Charlotte is like the 9th largest city in the US. Could be wrong, i didn't look it up.  I know I've heard that before though. Also, Atlanta is relatively small. The difference is all of the cities/towns/areas surrounding Atlanta are also close to Atlanta's size and much bigger than the places surrounding Charlotte. This makes it way more crowded and seem like a larger city. 

[ladypanther]

29 minutes ago, BrewerHouseBeer said:

Pretty sure Charlotte is like the 9th largest city in the US. Could be wrong, i didn't look it up.  I know I've heard that before though. Also, Atlanta is relatively small. The difference is all of the cities/towns/areas surrounding Atlanta are also close to Atlanta's size and much bigger than the places surrounding Charlotte. This makes it way more crowded and seem like a larger city. 

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities

Edited July 3, 2023 by ladypanther

[4Corners]

Here comes the billionaire city shakedown for corporate welfare