Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Giants game


t96
 Share

Recommended Posts

5 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Do you think frank asked daboll to give them a vanilla pass rush to see what Bryce can do given time? Bryce needs to lead us down the field to points before he comes out in my opinion.  Whether that's the first drive or the fifth. End him on a good drive and sit him against the lions 

So if he hits Mingo on a short pass first drive he breaks a tackles gets us 50 yards down the field next play we score on a slant, would those two or three plays let’s say be enough on one drive to sit Bryce in your opinion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I mean, it is a workday for most of us. With the game coming on at 7:00, a lot of us won't have time to engage until it's about on. I doubt there's a quell in excitement after one preseason game. If we get shellaced again, then all bets are off.

BTW, most of us regulars are hardcore. We're following this team regardless!

I'm a truck driver and probably working until midnight 😅  I'll be listening to the game 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Do you think frank asked daboll to give them a vanilla pass rush to see what Bryce can do given time? Bryce needs to lead us down the field to points before he comes out in my opinion.  Whether that's the first drive or the fifth. End him on a good drive and sit him against the lions 

My expectation is that Bryce and Reich outperform Cam Newton, Jake Delhomme, Rodney Peete, Steve Beuerlein, Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, and Baker Mayfield in their 1st preseason with a new offensive system. This should be very reasonable with the investment made in QB and offensive coach.

We are sitting in Chris Weinke and Jimmy Clausen territory right now. So, it looks bad.

Hoping he doesn't fold up and go into the Jeff Lewis preseason interception abyss.

I was hoping to see a rookie Drew Brees or 1st year Saints Drew Brees, but that faded quickly. He is far from being as prepared as Brees was as a rookie, and Reich is not Sean Payton.

  • Poo 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Hell, I probably won't get off until damned near 7:00. I'll have to decide if I even have time to do a mobile order and pick up some food, or just eat something frozen. "Real life problems." 😆

I just record the game  and pretend it starts an hour later lol. I just can’t take commercials anymore. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

My expectation is that Bryce and Reich outperform Cam Newton, Jake Delhomme, Rodney Peete, Steve Beuerlein, Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, and Baker Mayfield in their 1st preseason with a new offensive system. This should be very reasonable with the investment made in QB and offensive coach.

We are sitting in Chris Weinke and Jimmy Clausen territory right now. So, it looks bad.

Hoping he doesn't fold up and go into the Jeff Lewis preseason interception abyss.

I was hoping to see a rookie Drew Brees or 1st year Saints Drew Brees, but that faded quickly. He is far from being as prepared as Brees was as a rookie, and Reich is not Sean Payton.

Listen to yourself.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Hell, I probably won't get off until damned near 7:00. I'll have to decide if I even have time to do a mobile order and pick up some food, or just eat something frozen. "Real life problems." 😆

Also known as 'first world' problems but, I get your point...

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • You may be interested to know that the average depth of separation is dependent upon the type of route run. Though go-routes are the most type of route run, they also produce the least amount of separation (and, of course, completions).   "The average pass catcher runs a go route on nearly a quarter of all routes (22.3%), the highest percentage of any route type in our data. However, those routes are targeted roughly 1 out of 10 times (10.8 percent), the lowest target rate of any route. The WR screen is the least-run route (3.4%), and it's the only route where the average target is behind the line of scrimmage. But it's also targeted at the highest rate (40.7%) and early in the play (1.6 seconds average time to throw). The most targeted routes outside of the WR Screen? The out (27.8%) and slant (25.2%) routes are the next most popular across the league."     "The most valuable routes by expected points added per target were the post (+0.48) and corner (+0.43) routes. The go route (+0.19) ranked seventh on the list of 10 route types. The go route (+0.19) ranked seventh on the list of 10 route types. One possible reason for this: It's harder to separate on go routes, which put the player on a straight path, than on posts or corners, which ask the player to make a cut. Targeted pass catchers on posts and corners average 2.4 yards and 2.3 yards of separation from the nearest defender, respectively, while pass catchers targeted on go routes average just 1.8 yards of separation."   https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-intro-to-new-route-recognition-model#:~:text=Targeted pass catchers on posts,) and slant (+0.26).   I would expect that Thielen would have an easier time catching the ball based that he runs the routes where it's easier to get open. Tet? Yet to be seen, but we may be better served getting him on some slants and crossers also.  In general, receivers are going to average a lower completion percentage and yards of separation on certain types of routes than others, that's why we shouldn't necessarily be taking stats, even advanced ones, at face value, as there are dynamics that most aren't even thinking about.  In terms of Tet, he's bigger and somewhat slower than a smaller dude, so you'd expect him not to have as much separation on go-routes, but his catch radius is massive and his hands are awesome. Hitting him in stride will probably be killer, but of course QBs are less accurate on go-routes according to the stats. Depending upon Tet's route versatility and how he is used, we could have a unicorn though. He's relatively fast, has great hands and gets YAC (and on an off note, if X can hold on to the ball, he's dangerous as well because he already has shown some separation ability).    
    • Most elite WRs aren't necessarily burners. Not a lot of elite WRs in the modern era were 4.3 guys. If anything, sometimes it seems like the super fast guys use their speed as a crutch and it hampers their development in the intricacies of route running.
×
×
  • Create New...