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The ONE true glimmer of hope

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lightsout Grand Master

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2 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

A shoulder shrug?? Good lord... its gotten that bad. 

There was a time when posters on this very board understood savvy veteran tricks that guys like Peyton did, like looking off defenders, having good ball skills on something simple like a good play action, or yes, using their entire goddamn body to force a defender to leave a space that they're defending to go elsewhere so that they can get a bigger completion than the very checkdown everybody in here is pissed about him throwing for damn near the entirety of the rest of the game.

Holy poo people. I'm finding a silver lining here, something to point to and say "you don't see very many QBs in the league doing this type of poo, let alone rookies on their home opener" and we're acting like it's nothing at all? I'd say it gives one pause to not abandon the kid outright like most here are. Hell I was close, until that moment. Which is why I made the thread.

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3 hours ago, lightsout said:

In a 2 game span every fuging one of us are deflated. The hope of the post-draft off-season has died. However, one sequence at the end has lit a small ember. Probably getting snuffed out in the first quarter of next week, but still.

Bryce's use of his shoulders to make the corner bite up is a big time vet move. You don't see that kinda poo much from very many QBs. Intentional and executed perfectly and a strong throw to boot. Then the TD throw and the 2 pt throw. Both were must have type plays that NFL QBs better make and he did.

Does this erase the rest of the game? No. Did Bryce have a lot to work with considering the play calling and the lack of separation from receivers? No. However, he threw a handful of shitty balls in a game where he didn't hit on much in general.

If Bryce can build off that TD drive and continue the wiley veteran moves, he'll be ok for us. 

Good analysis.

My biggest read off of that final drive is the improvement from last week. Against the Falcons, Young didn't look comfortable running an up tempo offense at all. This week, he handled it quite well.

(and no, I don't give a sh-t if it was against prevent)

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52 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Good analysis.

My biggest read off of that final drive is the improvement from last week. Against the Falcons, Young didn't look comfortable running an up tempo offense at all. This week, he handled it quite well.

(and no, I don't give a sh-t if it was against prevent)

Prevent defense is only prevent to the red zone. Then the field is small and you have to earn your money. Panthers were still very much in it at that point. I think there was like four and a half minutes left but the defense could not sustain. He looked the part on that drive.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Good analysis.

My biggest read off of that final drive is the improvement from last week. Against the Falcons, Young didn't look comfortable running an up tempo offense at all. This week, he handled it quite well.

(and no, I don't give a sh-t if it was against prevent)

This is a very very low bar you’re setting for progress. Basically “does he have any moves that resemble a professional quarterback at all?” 
 

Take away the #1 pick label and everything you think a #1 pick could hypothetically be and pretend for a minute he was a 4th round pick from SMU. We’d all be saying it’s been awful because it has. The flashes just aren’t there and his mental makeup is too docile to be a franchise QB. 

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14 hours ago, lightsout said:

In a 2 game span every fuging one of us are deflated. The hope of the post-draft off-season has died. However, one sequence at the end has lit a small ember. Probably getting snuffed out in the first quarter of next week, but still.

 

Bryce's use of his shoulders to make the corner bite up is a big time vet move. You don't see that kinda poo much from very many QBs. Intentional and executed perfectly and a strong throw to boot. Then the TD throw and the 2 pt throw. Both were must have type plays that NFL QBs better make and he did.

 

Does this erase the rest of the game? No. Did Bryce have a lot to work with considering the play calling and the lack of separation from receivers? No. However, he threw a handful of shitty balls in a game where he didn't hit on much in general.

If Bryce can build off that TD drive and continue the wiley veteran moves, he'll be ok for us. Whether or not Frank gets wise and let's his OC actually call plays is another question.

But for those wanting something to be happy about apart from our defense looking pretty good for much of the game, there you have it.

keyshawn said it best this morning. it's a two minute defense. bend not break. hope is out the window. #notolerance

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1 minute ago, MasterAwesome said:

If we're discounting Bryce Young's TD drive because "prevent D"...then are we doing that for Stroud's entire 4th quarter when they were down 31-10?  Because he got literally half of his yardage (190 out of 384) and half of his point total (10 of 20) in that 4th quarter while they were down 3 TDs.  Just wondering.

It wasn't all "prevent defense" anyway.  They switched to cover 2 when we got in the redzone and Young still delivered.  We were a pretty close onside kick away being down by just a FG.  The 2 point conversion was also regular defense.  

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