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Every excuse I've seen is Matt Rhule 2.0, dating back to the preseason. How does a coach not now his best receiver is out with an injury? BTW where's Mingo? Hell Marshall showed up yesterday, albeit screens. Better go mortgage our future for another WR so we can run more screens for a QB who can't see over the line. Sell the team. I'm done.

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14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

damn the eternal optimist Joe Person unloads this morning

 

https://theathletic.com/4919479/2023/10/01/panthers-loss-rebuild-brian-burns-trade/

 

 

He should have already been traded for the fantastic offer from the Rams. Trade Brown as well. Fitt has got to come to life and start making the right choices or this is never going to end.

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When I was a kid I watched a show called Star Trek TNG. There was an episode on the show where the captain and ships doctor were stranded in the middle of nowhere. The captain led the way and was confident that the direction they were headed was going to lead them to safety and civilization. At some point, the doctor realized that the captain actually didn't know where they were headed, and the doctor questioned him about it. He explained that part of being a captain was giving off the impression that he knew exactly what he was doing when things were iffy, and inspiring others to have confidence in him and n themselves. A good lesson from my childhood that I've kept with me all these years. I'm reminded of that episode when I think of Frank and Beans and misguided confessions.

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If you re-watch either game 1 or game 2, you will see a other scenario where we stupidly burn a TO and you can see Frank say into his mic, "That’s on me."

Frank is the almost sole reason this offense doesn't operate. It's time to turn it over to Thomas Brown and let him do something different. Even if he isn't ready, maybe he is capable of learning from his mistakes.

Frank is and old dog. There are no new tricks he is going to learn.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

So we traded all of that for a fuging 3 year project?   Goddamn dude do you can see how that is fuging funny right?

Trading the short term for long term gains shouldn’t be a foreign concept. To most people, maybe except for irrational football fans. 

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