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1 minute ago, ChuckWag78 said:

I am comforted in the fact that I know Chicago is going to blow these two picks somehow. 

not even Chicago can mess this up. Those first 2 picks are gold. They can absolutely do a 180 with those picks. Caleb first. Trade out of #2 far just far enough to still get Harrison. And still have extra day 2 picks to play with - enough to move back into the first again. 

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

not even Chicago can mess this up. Those first 2 picks are gold. They can absolutely do a 180 with those picks. Caleb first. Trade out of #2 far just far enough to still get Harrison. And still have extra day 2 picks to play with - enough to move back into the first again. 

meh.  Just draft Caleb and Harrison Jr.  The trading out of it is where Chicago would end up screwing it all up. 

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2 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

I'm still a fan, this sucking would sting less if we had all of our draft assets though. If they dont win a couple games after the bye week I'll be ready to blow up the front office starting with Fitterer since he built this team.

Honestly, I was a solid Fitt supporter, but he has not only supported some questionable personnel decisions over his tenure, he supported the hiring of Reich which was about the most lackluster hire imaginable. I'm ready to fire both right now. 

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I can tolerate being beaten - that's the nature of life, giving it your all and still coming up short sometimes. What has drained me the most is the string of very obvious and easily-avoidable missteps that Tepper has made since taking ownership. Hanging on to Rivera and Hurney in 2018 into 2019, hiring Rhule and giving him complete control, interjecting himself into the QB situation at the end of 2020, keeping Rhule into 2022, hiring Reich (a good guy but a lame hire)... and that's not touching on the personnel items during that time, which aren't necessarily Tepper's fault directly but are the result of these missteps.

Like I tell my kids, I just can't support braindead behavior.

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18 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

not even Chicago can mess this up. Those first 2 picks are gold. They can absolutely do a 180 with those picks. Caleb first. Trade out of #2 far just far enough to still get Harrison. And still have extra day 2 picks to play with - enough to move back into the first again. 

Oh yes they can. Any QB drafted by the Bears is just doomed. History demands it.

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The fact that were still here on this message board despite this likely being the franchises 6th losing season in a row automatically means we're still fans

We lost a lot of those 2015 bandwagoners a long time ago. 

If you truly were not a fan or didn't care, you wouldn't watch the games or spend time arguing about them here

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