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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Stroud is different. It's time we stop comparing other rookie QBs to him. Dude is going to be in the upper echelon group of QBs. Hell he's already there as a rookie.

 

We screwed ourselves big time. 

Some of us knew this during the draft process 

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11 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Especially if Tepper sticks with Bryce.  New staff, the same shell shocked, physically limited, short and light-in-the-pants QB.

At least 3 years to turn it around...if we are lucky.  That's only if we move on from Bryce after next season.

Its a mess for sure.... but we have to eat poo in the trenches to come out on the other side...no short cut...

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3 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

That would be nice, yes

what he needs to do us understand the rush is coming and step up in the pocket 

despite all, he does have that opportunity a couple of times directly up the middle 

I have never seen him do it 

The sack that was being bitched about came when he WAS stepping up because Ickey (as usual) was being a turnstile.

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2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

There’s nothing for me to defend. You like sucking Stroud’s dick so much then go suck it. Pretty simple concept. When y’all let Cam go and entered QB purgatory, did you see me around here? No

Says the one sucking off Young

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