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2 minutes ago, The Natural said:

He very well could be a bust. I'm just taking emotions out of it and realizing with the state of this team there's no reasonable way we can really evaluate him this season. You should try some objectivity.

Guy has to many liabilities. 

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ok I've been watching texans and panthers football. Stroud has a much better receiving core but really, a much better scheme. The scheme abuses tight splits and is very creative in attacking the space to the outside (stroud also has a rocket)

Bryce has a very outdated scheme that doesn't really help out their cast of untalented receivers.

Completely two different situations, not comparable

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1 minute ago, ickmule said:

I’d love to see what Dalton can do.  

I would have too, starting the all the games following the Seattle contest.  But no, this is the Bryce Young show.  I am 100% against bailing him out now or the rest of the season.  He's going to get better or prove to the team why they should chalk it up as a loss and move on.  Unfortunately it's going to take another season and another coaching staff sacrifice for Tepper to figure it out.

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Just now, The Natural said:

I know it's comforting to think you can pin all the problems on one guy and if we get rid of him we'll be A-ok. Unfortunately that's not realistic, I'm sorry. I know it sucks man.

I never tried to pin all of it on young.  Far from it 

but I also am under no illusion that he is ever going to be what was hoped for in the nfl 

 

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