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Never forget how Scott Two Chinn handled the Lamar Jackson opportunity

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

At practically every turn Fitts has made the worst possible decision. That how you end up here we currently are.

As a GM, you will never hit on every move. But you do need to get lucky and hit on a few very important pieces. Fitt has missed on almost 100% of his free agents and draft picks. Luvu is arguably his best signing. Horn is ok. No one knows what Bryce will become. Icky is meh. 
 

 

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That Lamar situation was deeper than we think.

 

I called collusion. The owners came together and said no to Lamar Jackson. They didn't want that Watson contract to become the new norm.

 

I refuse to believe teams like Atlanta/Carolina had no interest when we had trash QB situations at the time. Even the rumors were shady when teams just started coming out of the blue saying no we are not interested.

 

MVP QB's don't just become available and no teams show any interest. This was 100% collusion from the owners.

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Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

That Lamar situation was deeper than we think.

 

I called collusion. The owners came together and said no to Lamar Jackson. They didn't want that Watson contract to become the new norm.

 

I refuse to believe teams like Atlanta/Carolina had no interest when we had trash QB situations at the time. Even the rumors were shady when teams just started coming out of the blue saying no we are not interested.

 

MVP QB's don't just become available and no teams show any interest. This was 100% collusion from the owners.

Sure seemed like some back room orchestrated collusion

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It's amazing how people still refuse to accept that the Lamar thing went down the way it did for two reasons.

First is that no team really wanted to give up the draft capital as well as give out the huge contract for someone who wasn't able to finish the previous two seasons.  

Second and more importantly, it was a poorly kept secret in the league that the Ravens were going to match any deal made to Lamar.  Because of that, nobody wanted to waste their time negotiating a difficult contract with Lamar, just for the Ravens to match it and then not get Lamar.

The Ravens were trying to use another team to deal with the negotiations, when nobody wanted to be their sucker, they finally just got a deal done with him.  It was a win-win for them, either someone else did the deal for them, or they couldn't and it then likely lowered his asking price a tad bit because it made the market for him seem worse.

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5 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

It's amazing how people still refuse to accept that the Lamar thing went down the way it did for two reasons.

First is that no team really wanted to give up the draft capital as well as give out the huge contract for someone who wasn't able to finish the previous two seasons.  

Second and more importantly, it was a poorly kept secret in the league that the Ravens were going to match any deal made to Lamar.  Because of that, nobody wanted to waste their time negotiating a difficult contract with Lamar, just for the Ravens to match it and then not get Lamar.

The Ravens were trying to use another team to deal with the negotiations, when nobody wanted to be their sucker, they finally just got a deal done with him.  It was a win-win for them, either someone else did the deal for them, or they couldn't and it then likely lowered his asking price a tad bit because it made the market for him seem worse.

You give up two firsts and you give him a fully guaranteed deal, it was an easy offer but the owners colluded 

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