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21 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

It does, but I still think it's unlikely we move him. Also we don't HAVE to get 2 firsts if we agree to another level of compensation.

No it’s just nice if someone tries to hike up his price we just take their picks. 

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3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I disagree about FA. I see it much more than that. Sure, you want to mainly build through the draft, but if you can pick a piece up in free agency with potential upside, you do it. Every team is a puzzle. You use all your available tools to build your team. Frankie Luvu is a great example of a player that you pick up, develop, and hopefully keep for the long term. 

How many times is a good young player available in FA? I’m not talking a trade like Tyreke Hill or AJ Brown where they left before their big contract, I’m talking about guys like that being available in FA.

Luvu was a bargain bin FA like Mario Addison. Let’s not talk about our every decade FA bargains. That’s like assuming there will be an undrafted Norwell in every draft. I’d almost consider Luvu and Addison draft picks because we got both of them before their first 4 year deal was up. Signing players released in their first few years in the league to minimum contracts to see them develops is not what I was talking about. Signing Luvu to a minimum deal and having him play well is a great bonus but it’s akin to drafting a good starter in day 3.

My point was that worrying about Burns $24M cap hit is about signing Hurst, Sanders, Houston and Corbett. To me that’s trying to get the final puzzle pieces to a playoff contender and that worked out great for us since we were so close to contending LOL. We don’t need to restructure Moron or extend Burns to fit the Luvus/Addisons of the world before they develop. There’s also way more bargain bin guys who get cut in training camp.

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12 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

That panthersontap tweet isn't accurate. Off the top of my head I can remember Seahawks trading Frank Clark after putting the non-exclusive tag on him. There's probably lots more.

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

They have to extend Moton now, and that is not a bad move anyway.  They need to sign a G in free agency, maybe a CB.  They need to hit on 2 WRs in the draft.  Since drafting Steve Smith, I am not sure I can think of 1 in 20 years.

I mean I would say DJ Moore was a hit. Then we decided to trade our only proven WR in a trade up for a young QB instead of trading Burns. That was dumb.

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Extend him, trade him; just get it over with already.

He should be traded ASAP if we don't intend to extend him or don't think we can get a deal done. We don't need that much cap space tied up all offseason unless we plan to have him on the field this year. Otherwise we need the cap space to sign a replacement.

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49 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It's not GM speak. They truly think he's something special. This team is FUBAR.

Our only hope is either a trade or a contract worth his price. 30 million for 8 sacks and zero run defense is going to cripple this team. Reddick got half for twice as much production lol

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12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There is a chance this is a wake up call for Burns and his agent after they talk to several teams.

That's my hope. It just drives me crazy that we had that offer and now a lot of people are hoping that we get offered a single first. A lot of fans realized how ridiculous that offer was. Pick 36 in 23' Pick 19 this year and whatever next year. Burns isn't even a top 10 edge rusher. Tepper and Scott were fugging morons. 

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18 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

I mean I would say DJ Moore was a hit. Then we decided to trade our only proven WR in a trade up for a young QB instead of trading Burns. That was dumb.

GB offered us their 2023 1st (I think it was #15) for Moore at the same time as Burns’ deal. Should have taken both trades and CMC so that we could actually tank 2022 and naturally get a top 3 pick not #9 where we forfeit our team to trade up for the wrong QB. 

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