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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns


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48 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

We dismantled the defense to help Bryce because we don’t know if he’s good or not.

We’ve just shuffled deck chairs.

 

45 minutes ago, chknwing said:

we dismantled the defense because it was not good and got worse as the season went on

It's likely a combination of the two. You also have to marry your finances with your positional priorities in general. It's a part of establishing an overall team culture as well, so you probably should be taking that into consideration when thinking about what's happening.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well at least something is going right.

The Giants as a destination never really made sense anyways as their roster is being rebuilt QB is up in the air and their defense was not a pass rusher away by any means. They were already 27th in total defense last season.

One of the few franchises dumb enough to trade for him and pay him what he wants 

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