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2 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Overpaying for a Guard, which is an easy position to find dudes and then letting Luvu go. Along with those 2 moves and resigning Ian Thomas, not really a fan of Morgans moves atm.

that's just simply not true. good ol play is so hard to find lmao.

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Well are defense is looking like its gonna suck because we are using all our limited resources to help our QB, better hope this offense can score more than 1 touchdown a game next year because its gonna get ugly if they cant. 

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Motherfuger.

 

Great job, Dan.  Out of our two most pressing issues in FA, you have successfully strung one out to the point of being forced into a trade that likely won't net a justifiable value in return and then you let the other guy, who is an actual beast on the field in every way, walk for absolutely nothing.  What a fuging blowhard.  Already fuging poo up in the deep-steeped Panther tradition.  This is a fuging joke.

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Just now, WestPanthers said:

So they refuse to pay the player with dawg and keep Burns? .......We're official tanking....

Morgan said we needed dawgs, called Luvu a dawg and then let’s him walk. Not a serious team 

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1 minute ago, scpanther22 said:

impressive you making this BY fault and not players just choosing not to be here lol

It's not Bryce Young's fault. It's PUR fault for drafting him. Every red flag I spelled out pre-draft came true, I just way underestimated just how bad the red flags were.

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Do we even have a 2nd best defensive player now after Brown?

Honestly, who is the 2nd best player on this defense if you remove both Burns and Luvu?

Probably Horn in reality, but given his injury history, not sure if you can consider him that, really don't know who would be next in line.

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2 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

that's just simply not true. good ol play is so hard to find lmao.

Guard is the easiest to find on the OL. Just because our coaches have been dogshit and didnt know how to coach anyone, doesnt make this not true. Our interior was a bright spot at the end of the 22-23 season then the Reich regime came in and everything went to poo.

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Sucks to see him go but I would not say he's irreplaceable. Certainly not if Brian Burns isn't.

Now we're heading into my fear scenario though where we basically have to navigate a stellar draft.

Hey it's sure a good thing we didn't retain the same scouting dept behind some of the worst drafts in franchise history the last few years. Oh...

 

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