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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

And his own limitations. Honestly, this is probably his ceiling. This is about as well as he can honestly be expected to play at the NFL level.

I disagree, he needs consistency with personnel and coaching. I think he can be a starter. We should all hope that’s what he becomes. Unless you want that bum Beck from GA. Because we are not getting the no 1 overall pick. 

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1 minute ago, Chief_Chokeaho said:

Bryce has played well despite the limitations of the offense and talent around him. Period. 

Make sure you include his limitations as well. He is far from the most talented player on the offense himself so I don't know why you even use that word. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And his own limitations. Honestly, this is probably his ceiling. This is about as well as he can honestly be expected to play at the NFL level.

I think he has a little more ceiling than this. Likely tops out at average level NFL starter, however.

I don't think it matters too much. If he is around averagish or a little worse, we can still build a team through the draft and FA. I just don't want to see us invest in a second Bryce contract in that scenario.

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2 minutes ago, Chief_Chokeaho said:

Bryce has played well despite the limitations of the offense and talent around him. Period. 

This is why so many oldtimers don't engage as much...

We get it... Bryce has been a disappointment so far being a number 1 pick.

But seriously, it's embarrassing for us that have actually watched the NFL for 30+ years to see some of these takes...

He's playing with all rookies and looking competent... given the circumstances, Bryce has played really well

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