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What franchises are in worse shape than the Panthers

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Trying to be as objective as possible, it' still us. Yes the Browns have the deshaun contract but they have a talented roster otherwise. Yes the Jets have been historically not great but they too have a lot of talent. The Jaguars are perpertually finding themselves at the bottom and depending on how you feel about Lawrence they are maybe the only team you could say is just as hopeless as us but they have some young talented players as well so I would put them over us too. 

 

Until we string together multiple solid drafts we will remain the least hopeful team just due to our lack of talent on the roster, forget the QB position 

Two quick wins and all of a sudden everyone forgets how awful this roster is.

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly, there is a significant gulf in talent between us and Cleveland. 

The only team close to us in that realm is New England. 

The Raiders aren't that much more talented than us, but they are also one of the top 3 most projected cap space teams this coming offseason, so their odds of being able to improve are higher. A lot would depend on QB but the same could be said about us.

New England is in a fantastic cap situation.  Just like the Raiders.

That's why it's just Clev for me.   

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Jets mortgaged their future and will be in rough shape.

Saints are going to be hurting with salary cap the next couple years and will finally start to entre full rebuild territory.

Giants... Have fun with that Burns contract when he starts mailing it in since ya'll are a bottom feeder like us.

Browns will likely have to lose a lot of talent because of Watson's cap hit the next couple of years.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

New England is in a fantastic cap situation.  Just like the Raiders.

That's why it's just Clev for me.   

They are starting from a far lower point on the talent scale than the Raiders, IMO. When I say the Raiders are "kind of close" it's not THAT close.

That isn't likely to be bridged in one offseason and New England also isn't a free wheel spending team.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

They are INSANELY more talented than us. There is not even an argument to be made in that regard.

Maye is very talented but also TO prone(basically what he is doing now) and it's led them to a 2-4 record versus Jacoby Brissett's 1-4 record. If anything that shows how little difference he can make because of the insanely talentless roster.

I didn't say us, just said other teams. 

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3 hours ago, CRA said:

I think if this convo is held anywhere else in the world by reasonable football fans.....Carolina is generally going to rank at 32 and the worst. 

If by "reasonable" you mean "casual", then maybe.  Otherwise I don't know how a reasonable fan with any understanding of the salary cap would say our prospects are worse than the Saints.  They're basically a "win now" roster that's considerably devoid of talent, in salary cap hell, 4-7 on the season, and just lost to us a couple weeks ago.  The biggest difference is in QB, and their QB situation isn't even good.  They've got an aging below-average QB accounting for almost 20% of their salary cap next year.  And that same QB might end up being a cap casualty next year if that's even possible without incurring a massive amount of dead cap.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Well that is what the thread is about.

They aren't an elite tier talented team, I would agree. Upper half of the league, IMO.

The QB struggles really have hamstrung their development as a team.

Yeah. But I was responding to the comment about them being insanely talented.  More talent than us, yeah. But also overrated in the talent department. 

They have more issues than just qb.  Their defense is not good.  Their run d is giving up more ypc than we are. On pass defense, they get sacks but if they don't get to the QB, they give up big plays. They also don't run the ball well. they have several big names, but across the board, talent is lacking.

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My impression is that we probably are near the bottom in a lot of areas but we're better maximizing what little we do have. Also, there seems to be quite a lot of bad teams this season to where it wouldn't take as much for them to spiral downwards.

If there's one arguable advantage on our end, not as much drama here. So far, Tepper's been relatively quiet. Chuba's plugging along nicely. Team seems to be in a lot better spirits compared to last year. Morgan's first draft is getting us some tangible results. No real rumblings about firing people. May take time to climb out of the hole but it helps a lot if we can just plug along and put the work in and avoid being pressured into bad decisions.

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People have been saying the Saints are teetering on the edge of catastrophe for years now. I despise them in every sense of the word but I do not expect them to remain down for long.

Honestly the same could be said for the Falcons.

When Brees and Ryan exited the division we all rejoiced but still those franchises find ways to compete.

Until proven otherwise we will remain the worst due to the Tepper's.

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