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Mid week discussion: via Trevor Lawrence hit.

Jackson113.2

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Its not about hitting him while sliding, its about him launching himself and raising his forearm into the head and neck.  That made it go from borderline bad hit to suspension.  Without that, it would have just been a 15 yard penalty.  And yeah, I do feel that Cam would have gotten the same treatment.  In truth, I feel that a running back would have gotten the same treatment although the running back wouldn't be sliding.    But launch yourself at a rb and lead with the forearm to the head and neck area, and that is about as clear a violation of the rules as possible.  

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Repeat offender who does dirty stuff like this all the time. I wish he got more, players like him are why we have the stupid rules we do on defense and why Mahomes can act like he’s trotting OOB then jog for another 20 yards cause nobody can touch him. 
 

we take hits like that out of the game, we can probably roll back some of the softness that’s introduced itself to the game past 10 years 

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Man up they protect these soft ass QB's.

 

Cam got his head took off in the SB and nobody was screaming for him. Different league now so it is what it is.

 

In the 90's this is a non story. 

Even the Broncos fans I was watching with were calling BS. The league sent a clear message Cam was not going to be the face of the NFL and Peyton was going out a winner. 

Talib said he was trying to injure Philly Brown and got a 25k fine and NO players got a year suspension. 

It's not soft. It's rigged. 

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17 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Man up they protect these soft ass QB's.

 

Cam got his head took off in the SB and nobody was screaming for him. Different league now so it is what it is.

 

In the 90's this is a non story. 

You know how I know you're wrong? It's been a decade and it still gets talked about on here often.

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