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2025 NFL Draft - Round 1 Discussion

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5 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

That's a traditional sized OLB/edge rusher. We just drafted him to be a DE. I liked Burns more as an edge in a 3-4 than a DE. 

Wasn't that when we assembled a bunch of 3-4 personnel and then stuck 'em in a 4-3 all year?

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Just now, Hoenheim said:

They are not the same. Tet is 6 foot 4 with silky smooth agility and soft hands with 3 consistent years of good production in college at WR, while Legette was 6 foot 1, heavier, faster, more raw prospect with only one year of college production.

Just my opinion. McMillian is a was a much more established player coming out of college and Legette was a raw project the team was hoping to mold into a threat. Totally different circumstances and players. The only correlation is that they are both somewhat bigger WRs and neither having blazing down field speed. 

 

in theory they are both big slow wr that supposedly go up and get the ball, neither are elite at route running and neither have elite speed, they are essentially the same player

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

If a WR doesn't go here.....this is gonna get rough for Golden, Burden, etc. 

not really. They could easily all go in the top 10 picks of R2 as well. We haven't gotten to the playoff contenders at the end of R1 who can make luxury picks on WRs. 

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1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I don't know... The only thing I think he has working for him is his athleticism. His hands are still awful and he doesn't know how to run good routes 

I saw him open a lot and he did have drops but he was known for good hands before last season I thought, Didn't he have a wrist injury last season? Sorry, i just don't get all the negativity in the huddle which is why i rarely post anymore but it is draft bight so I'm talking before going mostly silent for the rest of the year, lol

 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

in theory they are both big slow wr that supposedly go up and get the ball, neither are elite at route running and neither have elite speed, they are essentially the same player

XL was a 4.39 40 guy. Is that slow now?

Also, Tet didn't run a slow 40. He ran basically the same general 40 time(4.5-4.6) that guys his size usually do(minus the freaks). Evans, Hopkins, London, etc.

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Just now, PleaseCutStewart said:

I really am curious what trade offers were offered to us that we turned down. If it was anything close to the trade rape Cleveland pulled off, we blew it IMO

I think we would have taken a similar offer.  That offer only existed because Hunter was one of the only elite prospects.

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      I simply acknowledge BY is the QB.  And just like we did when we drafted him.....the type O you would need to setup around him for success was always pretty simple.  But we have done virtually the opposite.  XL dropping some passes isn't why we were ranked the 32nd O and 30th passing the past 2 years.  *Ricky Prohel was brought up only in regards to role function he served on the team.  Niche/specialist.   He wasn't eating up the snaps in the O.    AT should have a similar snap %. People could MAUL Ricky Prohel and put hands all over him.   We got to the Super Bowl in part because we were mauling guys (our slot CB).   You can't do that now.  AT has a MUCH easier life and still can't get open.  Or run.    If you live in 3 WR sets, with a weak armed QB, and you choose to put someone who can't get open or run in the slot.......well, your are going to have a weak pass O.  That's by design IMO.  
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