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Coker to IR; Renfrow signed to 53

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Not really concerned about it if Renfrow is good to go. Coker is the more direct Theilen replacement but for a Bryce type QB a guy like Renfrow's seems perfect. A guy who can get open immediately and can do a little something after the catch 

I'm trying to stay positive on it. Crazy going from out of the league, cut, to starting W1

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not really concerned about it if Renfrow is good to go. Coker is the more direct Theilen replacement but for a Bryce type QB a guy like Renfrow's seems perfect. A guy who can get open immediately and can do a little something after the catch 

Tbh, I feel like AT’s strongest attribute was his leadership, presence, and in-game knowledge which includes helping everybody on offense know what they’re doing and looking at.  Yes, he out up surprisingly good numbers considering how much slower he looked here compared to his prime years in Minny.  But in terms of his ability to get open, I don’t think we lose anything going to Renfrow in that role.  If anything, in terms of ability, if Renfrow can hold up, I think he’s a more explosive version of AT.  My only real concern is what we lost in on-field coaching from AT.

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29 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Tbh, I feel like AT’s strongest attribute was his leadership, presence, and in-game knowledge which includes helping everybody on offense know what they’re doing and looking at.  Yes, he out up surprisingly good numbers considering how much slower he looked here compared to his prime years in Minny.  But in terms of his ability to get open, I don’t think we lose anything going to Renfrow in that role.  If anything, in terms of ability, if Renfrow can hold up, I think he’s a more explosive version of AT.  My only real concern is what we lost in on-field coaching from AT.

AT was basically Greg Olsen-ish for Bryce.  In so many ways.  He was keeping stuff on right page and really more of small TE than actual slot WR out there. 

Canales isn’t going to be able to just insert Hunter into that role on the O that AT was doing.   Hunter is a true slot WR.  And a niche one at that.    Might take some time to try to figure out plays/calls really insert Renfrow into.  Thats not really Canales’ base what Hunter does so well

 

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39 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Tbh, I feel like AT’s strongest attribute was his leadership, presence, and in-game knowledge which includes helping everybody on offense know what they’re doing and looking at.  Yes, he out up surprisingly good numbers considering how much slower he looked here compared to his prime years in Minny.  But in terms of his ability to get open, I don’t think we lose anything going to Renfrow in that role.  If anything, in terms of ability, if Renfrow can hold up, I think he’s a more explosive version of AT.  My only real concern is what we lost in on-field coaching from AT.

Which is why I'm honestly glad he's gone. That's nothing against Thielen. He was everything we signed him to be. But Bryce Young wasn't a guy drafted for his immense physical talent. He was drafted because he's supposed to be a QB football savant. So let's see it. Take away the training wheels doing it for him and let's see it.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I mean you can sugarcoat it any way you choose but he wanted to go to Minny to play with a guy that has never started in the nfl.

 

why you want to argue this point is quite perplexing.  It was never going to end well for the panthers once AT wanted out

 

"It's kinda hard, when I sit Adam Thielen down in my office and he is just really wanting to go there and he's pretty adamant that 'this is what I want, this is where I want to go,' I didn't really want to stand in his way," Morgan told Kyle Bailey of WFNZ radio in Charlotte. "It was something that he was really convicted about. He wanted to go and finish his career there. Obviously he's from there, he has a house there, he has young kids. There's a human side to it, too."

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/panthers-gm-adam-thielen-was-adamant-he-wanted-go-minnesota

No one cares about facts anymore but I appreciate the effort here. A 4th was a great return in this situation. That is incontrovertible but it will be debated ad nauseam anyway. 

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2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

I don’t care. Morgan should not care either. We got a 4th it wasn’t like we got a haul. You stay and play or stay and sit out. No damn reason to just let him do what he wants because we want to be a nice FO and look good to other players. So stupid 

Adam Thielen is a millionaire that we had to talk out of retirement. How do you think forcing him to be here would have helped us when his home team called? He sits out, then essentially he is retired (as he originally wanted) and our salary cap is hit without the return. In addition our young locker room has a huge distraction. Think outside what you may have wanted and you will clearly see we only had one option. 

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7 minutes ago, Beast_3000 said:

Adam Thielen is a millionaire that we had to talk out of retirement. How do you think forcing him to be here would have helped us when his home team called? He sits out, then essentially he is retired (as he originally wanted) and our salary cap is hit without the return. In addition our young locker room has a huge distraction. Think outside what you may have wanted and you will clearly see we only had one option. 

I can guarantee you, with absolute confidence and certainty, he was never going to sit out. Btw it seems you didn't know, you don't get paid if you sit out games. He only had like $2M in guaranteed money this season. 

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