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OFFICIAL Week 1: Panthers @ Jaguars Game Day Thread


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1 minute ago, cmichd08 said:

I don't doubt that because he jumped the route but still ran into Legette. Still he did nothing unless he fell down because the bump was too hard.

WTH you want Legette to do have gadget arms?

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19 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

It wasn't Legette's man that got the pick.  A guy dropped of his coverage assignment because Bryce was staring XL down.

I know that. Did XL fall down because the DB bumped him too hard. The ball was tipped and it was the man covering LX who got the interception.

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2 minutes ago, NAS said:

both things can be true, if your scheme asks for your QB to be perfect it’s not a good scheme 

Bryce had plenty room for error on that throw to Renfrow and he still screwed it up. He had an easy path to jog to the sticks on the INT.

You gotta open your eyes, man.

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

That INT is the perfect example of the coverage cheating I always talk about with Bryce on the field.  They know they don’t have to respect certain routes.   Especially the S.  Safeties cheat and don’t play essentially how they are supposed to.

Another opening day and another S not respecting the downfield threat and coming up to make plays because they all know what Bryce does 

Absolutely truth

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28 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I want Bryce to succeed and live up to his draft position. I'm just frustrated we've seen this middling Bryce far too often during season starts, and for what we've given up to draft him, I'd like him to be a settled top notch starter in the league, not a "maybe he'll be top tier in a decade."

Sunk cost fallacy is at play here, and if Young doesn't show out consistently, it's time to move on.

Saca, you used to think every Panther team was a potential Superbowl winner. I'm sorry the Panthers had to stomp on your soul and rip out your spine. I could have warned you but that's like telling a kid there's no Santa.

 

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38 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

From that view, XL is getting depth--if he doesn't drift deeper by a yard or two, if he closes down the route a yard or two, does the ball get picked? Secondly, he is floating--not sprinting--I do not give 100% of the blame to him, but my college coach would have ripped me a new ass in the film room on Sunday night if I did that---

As for the pass?  If he throws it around XL's knees it is not picked--it was telegraphed to an extend and XL was drifting deeper and not sprinting.  Ugly, really

I saw tmac floating and jogging on a route across the middle earlier too.

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1 minute ago, NAS said:

both things can be true, if your scheme asks for your QB to be perfect it’s not a good scheme 

If a QB requires everything to be perfect to look good that is also a problem. 
 

It’s alarming how much Bryce appears to rely on momentum and confidence and a decked out o-line. He might have the mind for the game but the physical tools aren’t present to just play the game down for down.

Piggybacking off an earlier comment, Matt Moore would look like Favre in this offense. Cam wish he had a supporting cast like this. Delhomme would be a top 5 QB in his peak on this squad. Steve  Beuerlein would look like a god. 
 

Im not giving up on Bryce yet but he was the #1 pick. That kind of player elevates a team and doesn’t rely on the supporting cast. He must arrive and show us something this game. 

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