Panther fans sound off on Bryce

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, Candler Cat said:

I just can't figure out what in the actual they were thinking

We tried to create the NFL version of new age art by eating 5 pounds of Taco Bell and washing it down with 2 gallons of that stuff they give you before a colonoscopy and this poo splattered canvas is what us fans get to look at week in and week out.

[PantherKyle]

1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

Garbage time stats might work in our favour come trading him 

We had the ball to win the game. No time in this game was garbage time.

[mav1234]

44 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

We had the ball to win the game. No time in this game was garbage time.

Arguably Bryce's first TD and maybe second TD drive were. He did less than nothing until the game seemed surely out of reach. Then, when it looked like things could have turned the corner...

He caved when it mattered most.

[electro's horse]

3 hours ago, strato said:

I was thinking he has to be in the running for ‘most likely to bust’ though. I am sure there were a couple more. Manziel comes to mind but I think Bryce wins. Jamarcus or JaMarcus was a piece of work and it seems like the good teams should have sussed that out. 
Quarterback Fever is a bad germ to catch. 

 

Everyone knew Manziel was going to flame out, especially once the combine process started and all the stories from TAMU started to get to teams. Dude straight up did not know how to play football, how to read a defense, how to not do drugs. There were rumors that his family was involved in armenian organized crime that were pretty credible. 

He was just that physically gifted in college; he had a huge arm, he could scramble away from anyone, and no matter where he was on the field he could toss up a jump ball to mike evans. Him beating Alabama was what caused Saban to finally get away from statue QBs and implement some RPO elements. 

The way he played in college was never going to work in the pros. Even if he wasn't a polysubstance abuser and was cerebral and willing to put in the work, the best case scenario was always him sitting for multiple years and learning how to play football. He was off almost all boards, notably not Dallas tho. 

This a true story. A homeless person approached Jimmy Haslam on the street and told him to draft Johnny Football. So the Browns did. That was just about the worst place he could have landed, he started right away, and the first time he tried to get to the edge against an NFL linebacker he realized he wasn't as fast as Luke Kuechly and he was injured and never really played again. 

I was at this game. 

Anyway, great college player, absolutely deserved the Heisman, was never going to work in the NFL, hard to call him a bust just because the Browns reached for him and threw him to the wolves. 

Edited 12 hours ago by electro's horse

[Aussie Tank]

3 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

We had the ball to win the game. No time in this game was garbage time.

As soon as the Cards dline pinned thier ears back he went to water. So did our oline though so there's that

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Garbage time stats might work in our favour come trading him 

Very unlikely, IMO. I think he has put enough on tape to be worth a 5th or 6th, at best. Depends on when he is traded, too. If it is ASAP, the value will be slightly higher because of the smaller cost contract wise(3rd year rookie versus expiring contract). 

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, strato said:

I was thinking he has to be in the running for ‘most likely to bust’ though. I am sure there were a couple more. Manziel comes to mind but I think Bryce wins. Jamarcus or JaMarcus was a piece of work and it seems like the good teams should have sussed that out. 
Quarterback Fever is a bad germ to catch. 

 

There have been some wild ones. Leaf. Rosen, etc. 

People are just forgetting some of the insane historical QB busts. 

A lot of that is the power of how bad that trade up was. I do think it has to be firmly in the top 2-3 worst NFL Draft trades, however. I would need to look at the history to see if any come close. Maybe Ricky Williams? IIRC, Ryan Leaf was a similar trade too.

[CRA]

6 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

We had the ball to win the game. No time in this game was garbage time.

Down 24 in the second half and opposing team letting your check down for 14 play drives……is garbage time.   It’s free yards in exchange for clock.  

now the garbage time strategy did allow the Panthers to get back in the game coupled with Cardinals offensive errors and miracle Panthers onside kick…..and then it wasn’t garbage time.   And then Bryce literally didn’t gain a yard. 

[strato]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

There have been some wild ones. Leaf. Rosen, etc. 

People are just forgetting some of the insane historical QB busts. 

A lot of that is the power of how bad that trade up was. I do think it has to be firmly in the top 2-3 worst NFL Draft trades, however. I would need to look at the history to see if any come close. Maybe Ricky Williams? IIRC, Ryan Leaf was a similar trade too.

I guess. For me I am a layman football scouting wise. I know nothing really. But just 10 minutes of critically looking at Young via videos showed it to me. 

I don’t think Leaf, for instance, would have been easy that way. He had the prototypical stuff. To know he would bust, you’d have to have the skill to dissect his mental potholes. And probably some one on one time with him. 

[Tomcatn]

4 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

As soon as the Cards dline pinned thier ears back he went to water. So did our oline though so there's that

Yellow water

[mrcompletely11]

7 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

We had the ball to win the game. No time in this game was garbage time.

Here is the new narrative ladies and gentlemen

[BIGH2001]

10 hours ago, fanpanther said:

this is a good topic i did a quick search 2007 jam russel is only somewhat recent number one overall to suck this bad. but the trade puts bryce at a bigger level of suck.  

Caleb Williams isn’t looking so hot either, even with the illustrious Ben Johnson as his head coach. QBs taken early bust all the time. It was the trade itself that was incredibly stupid. 

[strato]

7 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Caleb Williams isn’t looking so hot either, even with the illustrious Ben Johnson as his head coach. QBs taken early bust all the time. It was the trade itself that was incredibly stupid. 

I was hard against that trade. My red line is you don’t trade future 1st round picks. You just do not ever do that. That is what Hurney did that turned me against him. 
All I know is everything I watched with Young playing football screamed to me, do not buy into this he can’t succeed against NFL talent.

[The Lobo]

26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Here is the new narrative ladies and gentlemen

You’re right, again on X, that’s what’s being said. Anyone who actually watched could tell that the Cards defense was different in the second half…until the game was on the line the last drive, then they went into first half mode.