No more mistakes on draft day...

[Cpt slay a ho]

So many mistakes on draft day cause this stupid front office is hell bent on getting “their” guy

team needs to find an identity first, we don’t do anything very well on offense, defense or special teams 

the fact that we didn’t bring in qb completion or a c when both positions most fans knew would fail at some point tells me all I need to know 

[bythenbrs]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's always going to be mistakes in the draft, it's a crapshoot in a lot of ways. Our problem isn't just bad drafting, though it's a big part of our problem. Don't oversimplify it. It seems like Tepper and his gang of clowns sit around and see if they can come up with new ways to fug up a football organization. We draft bad. We make bad decisions in FA. We give big money to the wrong players in house. We hire bad GMs and coaches. The scouts are either ignored or completely suck. There's not much of anything that we do right. It goes far beyond just the draft.

Is it wrong to long wistfully for the days of Jerry Richardson?  Asking for a friend…

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Is it wrong to long wistfully for the days of Jerry Richardson?  Asking for a friend…

Of course not. Back then we all longed for consistency. We just couldn't find a way to put together good seasons but we'd mess around and have good seasons often enough to keep things interesting and give reason for hope. That's a helluva lot better than just being the league's doormat year after year.

[Aussie Tank]

7 hours ago, scratched said:

If ownership had a clue... We would have Mayfield or Darnold starting with a stacked team around them! 

Ownership probably pushed for them to be traded for. It's was the coaches that made them look garbage here 

[Jackie Lee]

One bust praising another bust lol

 

[Ornias]

57 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

One bust praising another bust lol

 

A luxury in the fact that the suckage is spread around and not solely on him. 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

Do we miss Marty Hurney yet? lol 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Do we miss Marty Hurney yet? lol 

People just couldn't wait to move on from Ron/Hurney....

[kungfoodude]

On 9/17/2025 at 9:24 AM, Waldo said:

Not much to tear down on the roster. A few contracts to dump but really pretty bare bones due to years of poor management and not being able to get more expensive people to come into their mess. 

100% on holdovers. The problem is the Teppers will be a part of the hiring at some level, which they have failed at in every way. I can't see a way around that hurdle unless it's pure luck at this point.

We did a complete roster tear down after 2018. Everyone here was clamoring for it, while I was not. Competent and competitive franchises never do this. They constantly retool. It keeps continuity even across staffs and helps maintain a certain level of culture.

That is all now gone from our organization. We have no culture, we have no continuity. It's basically just a bunch of guys drifting through on their way other places or out of the league. 

This is why you never tear down a roster and especially without any stability or structure in the FO. 

We doomed ourselves to failure from the first moment of Tepper's era. He tore down everything and rebuilt in "his" image.

Look upon it, Panther fans. This is exactly what you asked for and these are the results.

[Waldo]

23 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We did a complete roster tear down after 2018. Everyone here was clamoring for it, while I was not. Competent and competitive franchises never do this. They constantly retool. It keeps continuity even across staffs and helps maintain a certain level of culture.

That is all now gone from our organization. We have no culture, we have no continuity. It's basically just a bunch of guys drifting through on their way other places or out of the league. 

This is why you never tear down a roster and especially without any stability or structure in the FO. 

We doomed ourselves to failure from the first moment of Tepper's era. He tore down everything and rebuilt in "his" image.

Look upon it, Panther fans. This is exactly what you asked for and these are the results.

I don't remember a 2018 tear down. I remember the failed 2019 failed build up of the 3-4 switch which is still stuck in the 'working on the foundation' stage. I thought 2020 was closer to that but really it was just an idiot behind the wheel doing what idiots do. Poor drafting and free agents is the main problem IMO. This team hits so little on talent it's actually amazing they don't stumble over more just by accident.  

I still don't think there is anything to tear down. Just a ton of easy to dump people that should happen. It's a bottom of the roster churn that reaches 2/3s the way up this roster. 

[thennek]

Despite what reports say, I still think Tepper is influencing football decisions.  We certainly heard about this during the Reich short era...ie - the Monday morning meetings.  There are too many consistent inconsistencies still going on to not think he is still too much involved.  New coaches, new GMs....same results.  The offense looks the same under Canales as it did under Rhule, Brown and Reich. The only time the offense has looked different was when Wilkes moved to a power run game for 6-7 games.  But it was clear Wilkes would not have wanted BY....probably a big reason why he was not retained.  

The defense was actually better under Snow but he had better players and it was not a great defense.  But the defense has gotten much worse as they lost key players (Luvu, Chinn, Burns & etc) but did not replace them with even average talent.  The defense was never really strong since the 3-4 defense was pushed on Rivera by Tepper.

I think Tepper pushed for BY too.  Now Canales is stuck with a QB that does not fit his system.  The last 7-years of Panthers football can be traced back to when Tepper bought the team.  

[rebelrouser]

Spencer Fanno OT Utah or Caleb Downs S Ohio State? I'm already falling out of love with next year's qb class. Maybe Mateer QB Oklahoma in the second.