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I wake up this morning full of rage towards Ronald McDonald Rivera / Gettleman / Hurney

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Watching Luke go into the HOF despite a short playing career is a testament to how damn good he was when on the field!

 

how this team didn’t win a SB or even post back to back winning seasons despite having an MVP on offense and a MVP on defense will forever be a pain for me

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It's called injury's and at one point the best Div in the NFL.

Unlike NE who had the Jets and Dolphins to play and always had a easy path to the playoffs most years.

When the NFC South was hot it had 4 good teams all beating up on each other or flipping the Div every yr

2015 and 2017 was the years to win it all with Cam and Luke. 2015 the OL failed them and 2017 the WRs failed them.

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43 minutes ago, NCBlu said:

It's called injury's 

Is it though?

JK. I agree.  When he was carted off the field crying like a baby I knew his days were numbered.  That is not just an injury to a joint or tendon--that is your brain.  He played 8 years at a position where he was the best we have seen for most of them.  

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To the OP's credit, Ron Rivera, imo, used Cam at times like a fullback.  The fact that he never had back-to-back winning seasons with a stud QB says a lot.  The OL was an afterthought.  Cam saved RR's job many times.  RR was NFC coach of the year twice during that time, but he never earned it.  I wish we had kept Fox.  He got it.  Never had a great QB and won more.

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2 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Watching Luke go into the HOF despite a short playing career is a testament to how damn good he was when on the field!

 

how this team didn’t win a SB or even post back to back winning seasons despite having an MVP on offense and a MVP on defense will forever be a pain for me

It’s a pain that will never go away 

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we had one of the most successful runs in franchise history under all of them. We came very close to having one of the best seasons of all time

You make it sound like they ran us like the Jets 

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

we had one of the most successful runs in franchise history under all of them. We came very close to having one of the best seasons of all time

You make it sound like they ran us like the Jets 

OP is partially right though. How do you not make multiple deep playoffs runs with arguably the best MLB of all time and one of the most unique and dominant QBs of his time? To me the answer is Ron Rivera. He simply wasn't good enough and didn't make the right moves with Cam until it was too late. 

Efforts were made in the draft to "try" to address our needs, but a lot of those picks flopped. And the FO was not nearly aggressive enough in replacing Jordan Gross, and they were far too complacent with Olsen as our best pass catcher until we got DJ Moore. 

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5 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Watching Luke go into the HOF despite a short playing career is a testament to how damn good he was when on the field!

 

how this team didn’t win a SB or even post back to back winning seasons despite having an MVP on offense and a MVP on defense will forever be a pain for me

We shouldve wont a couple SBs, but Rivera was too set in his ways and Shula wasnt creative enough.

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1 hour ago, OneBadCat said:

OP is partially right though. How do you not make multiple deep playoffs runs with arguably the best MLB of all time and one of the most unique and dominant QBs of his time? To me the answer is Ron Rivera. He simply wasn't good enough and didn't make the right moves with Cam until it was too late. 

Efforts were made in the draft to "try" to address our needs, but a lot of those picks flopped. And the FO was not nearly aggressive enough in replacing Jordan Gross, and they were far too complacent with Olsen as our best pass catcher until we got DJ Moore. 

Everyone seems to forget that Rivera never made any changes until it was too late. 

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1 hour ago, OneBadCat said:

OP is partially right though. How do you not make multiple deep playoffs runs with arguably the best MLB of all time and one of the most unique and dominant QBs of his time? To me the answer is Ron Rivera. He simply wasn't good enough and didn't make the right moves with Cam until it was too late. 

Efforts were made in the draft to "try" to address our needs, but a lot of those picks flopped. And the FO was not nearly aggressive enough in replacing Jordan Gross, and they were far too complacent with Olsen as our best pass catcher until we got DJ Moore. 

far they were not perfect I agree on that 

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