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Sam Darnold

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1 hour ago, hepcat said:

He wasn’t great at USC either. Never understood the hype around him. 

I've never understood the hype around ANY USC quarterback. Carson Palmer was a legit starter in the NFL. He was never elite or top 5 at his position, but for several seasons you could make a strong case that he was always a top 15 player, and maybe even top 10. The early injury in his career and the fact that he spent much of his career in Cincinnati negativity affected his career.

Outside of Carson Palmer, tell me a USC quarterback that excelled in pro football. I can't think of it of any, and I've been watching football since the late 1970s.

Just take a look at names below and you'll see why I have this point of view

Rodney Peete had some success but he would be considered a journey man QB. Pat Jaden started for the Rams when I was a kid but ultimately lost his job to the long forgotten Vince Ferragamo.

Matt Leinert, Cody Kessler, Mark Sanchez, John David Booty, Matt Barkley, Rob Johnson,  Todd Marinovich, and Matt Cassell never excelled in the PROS. I don't think the above list has one pro bowl appearance among them.

As soon as I saw Sam Darnold...USC Quarterback...I realized he already had 3 strikes against him.

I'd feel better drafting a Division 2 college player or taking a chance on an undrafted free agent before I'd invest HEAVILY in ANY USC quarterback. 

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Damaged goods, you say? Like I mentioned in my one-man train of picking Sewell over the other QBs. No one has changed my mind about putting a great 1-5 overall pick behind a joke of NFL line(like the 2021 panthers one). Not high on sitting a #1 pick 1-2 years either, while you try to fix the OL. Fix the OL FIRST!!!

I got to eat some crow about him tho, I completely disowned Gettleman after he passed on Darnold for Saquad. I thought he would be a top ten QB within a couple years. Funny part is Gase is a QB guru, Peyton speaks very highly of him. Doesnt seem fit to be a HC, needs to drop back a few levels. 

Gase is a complete joke. He seems to be a QB destroyer and not whisperer. 

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It always amazes me that the guys anointed as QB whisperers apparently whisper so quietly that the QBs don't hear them.

Then again, like any group, it probably follows that a third of them are great coaches, a third are okay but got lucky, and a third happened to coach QBs who would have emerged had Buddy Ryan taken them under his wing.

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I'm going no, and I'll tell you why. Even if we don't get Trevor, there are a couple of consolation-prize QB's in the draft that look to be better than Darnold. Hell, IMO, Teddy looks better than Darnold, and he's our back-up for at least 2 more years. We are a good spot (without intentionally tanking) to draft our next franchise QB next year, and have a smart, capable backup in place to groom him.

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16 hours ago, hepcat said:

He wasn’t great at USC either. Never understood the hype around him. 

The odds of a USC QB making it big in the NFL is not very good---what do they have?  Palmer?  Then there is Sanchez, Barkley, Leinart, Cassel, Peete, R. Johnson?   Yikes. 

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37 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I'm going no, and I'll tell you why. Even if we don't get Trevor, there are a couple of consolation-prize QB's in the draft that look to be better than Darnold. Hell, IMO, Teddy looks better than Darnold, and he's our back-up for at least 2 more years. We are a good spot (without intentionally tanking) to draft our next franchise QB next year, and have a smart, capable backup in place to groom him.

This. Give me Lance, Fields or even Newman before Darnold...

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I worry Darnold will have the David Carr effect.  It's not that Carr was such a bad QB coming out of college, it's that he has been hit so much and put in such terrible situations that he never learned how to calm down and let the play develop of the field.  His timing got thrown off because half the time with the Texans his recievers were not running the right route or not the route he read from the defense.  Bad coaching and lack of talent kind of ruined his career with the Texans and when he went to other teams all the bad habits he learned from the Texans just followed him around and he was never able to get away from it.  I would have to see Darnold play for someone else before I would take a chance on him because he could have the same problems.

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