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Watching Rashawn Slater be great makes me sad and angry.

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CPF4LIFE Grand Master

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I stand by what i said in ultimately i didnt have a problem taking Horn. Its just now im confused in how we continued to prioritize CB even after the draft.  We could have took slater and still acquired CJ and Gilmore later. Pass defense is not a problem, keith Taylor looked good today. 

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8 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I stand by what i said in ultimately i didnt have a problem taking Horn. Its just now im confused in how we continued to prioritize CB even after the draft.  We could have took slater and still acquired CJ and Gilmore later. Pass defense is not a problem, keith Taylor looked good today. 

Big problem with your statement though. CJ and Gilmore were happily on other teams with no signs of being released or traded at the draft. So with this in mind, there was no way to know Fit and the team would have a chance at them. CB/secondary help was a need in the draft as well and they took the player they thought was best available to fill a need. One OT wouldn't have helped especially now seeing how utterly terrible Paradis and the rest of the inside have played so far.

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20 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

Big problem with your statement though. CJ and Gilmore were happily on other teams with no signs of being released or traded at the draft. So with this in mind, there was no way to know Fit and the team would have a chance at them. CB/secondary help was a need in the draft as well and they took the player they thought was best available to fill a need. One OT wouldn't have helped especially now seeing how utterly terrible Paradis and the rest of the inside have played so far.

Having a elite OT would have helped immensely. Yeah we would still have problems but having bad tackles and guards is way worse. It is what is they took Horn. 

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Just now, CPF4LIFE said:

Having a elite OT would have helped immensely. Yeah we would still have problems but having bad tackles and guards is way worse. It is what is they took Horn. 

We tried to trade out of the #8 spot.  The only offers we received were worth less than that actual value of the 8th spot.  If we had, we might have gotten Slater or another lineman with the pick.

The only reason we are having this conversation about Slater is because Horn is hurt.

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3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Well, the starting RG for KC that appears to be manhandling Ed Oliver was available when we took our long snapper. That was TTD one pick of our that was just plain stupid at the time and honestly is even worse now. We took Brown earlier and his knock was his RAS score, well Trey Smith had a 9.8 and was supposed to be a day 2 pick. SMH that we didn’t take a chance on our weakest spot (IOL) since BC looks to potentially be our RT.

Hindsight of Horn being hurt makes Slater hurt more but Slater wasn’t guaranteed and Horn looked solid. LS over Smith was obvious when it happened.

And people were wanting Smith even earlier lol

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29 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

We tried to trade out of the #8 spot.  The only offers we received were worth less than that actual value of the 8th spot.  If we had, we might have gotten Slater or another lineman with the pick.

The only reason we are having this conversation about Slater is because Horn is hurt.

Not me...Slater has been off the charts. Better than what i thought he would be.

If Horn was healthy, we could still be 3-2 right now. We have not had trouble stopping the pass at all this year outside a couple big plays.....even without him. 

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New GM is kinda proving why drafting a DB at #8 isn’t the ideal value move….

Need a stud DB? Gilmore cost a 6th to acquire. 

Need a young stud? Henderson cost a 5th to acquire. 

and he has openly voiced how no one is willing to talk about offensive lineman. 
 

*Horn definitely looks awesome.   But just in terms of positional value..corner at 8 might not of been the most ideal decision for a team with so many issues upfront and without a long term answer at QB yet 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

New GM is kinda proving why drafting a DB at #8 isn’t the ideal value move….

Need a stud DB? Gilmore cost a 6th to acquire. 

Need a young stud? Henderson cost a 5th to acquire. 

and he has openly voiced how no one is willing to talk about offensive lineman. 
 

*Horn is definitely looks awesome.   But just in terms of positional value.  

With all the investment in the front 7 and after seeing for years with Fox and Rivera that a good pass rush can win games even if you have a mediocre secondary of no name guys, I thought drafting a CB in the first round was foolish. Not that Horn is a bad player, quite the opposite. But a LT is a hard position to plug. Slater was considered a top level talent and at a premium position. 

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