Trading for CJ Henderson was a mistake.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Problem is they didn’t give up just a 3rd it was also a starting caliber TE that had chemistry with a shaky QB. For a guy who isn’t playing and might never play due to lack of desire or mental health.

My gripe is giving up yet another high draft pick for a reclamation project player. That’s a 2nd and a 4th for Darnold (failure) and a 3rd and starter for CJ Henderson. Two players dumped by the teams that drafted them. 

 

The darnold trade has nothing to do with it. The two moves exist independent of one another. 

I can see trading a productive offensive asset now (arnold) for more defense (now, then later obviously as above), but that was again dealing from a position of strength to patch up a need. At the time the Panthers had a lot of toys on offense, and felt they could absorb that trade with other players on the roster.

Arnold being here or not is irrelevant by now. Arnold is strictly pass catching, and with the way the season has developed they have to have someone on the line who can block. Or at least can block theoretically.

I'm surprised with Ian Thomas lines up on the correct side of the line of scrimmage. 

[saX man]

I will say the combo of Taylor and Bouye has been nice.  Bouye has been better than average and Taylor is a great find for us.  

[SmittysLawnGuy]

To be fair when "The Fiddler" said in on every trade he didn't say those trades would be worth a shizz. 

[ickmule]

17 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

This thread is a knee jerk.

Maybe it’s not a knee that’s  getting jerked. Lol.  

Edited November 12, 2021 by ickmule

[Waldo]

Gilmore and Taylor were cheap and are productive. Horn and Henderson cost too much and are not producing, at least not yet.

We won't know much more until next year where everyone needs to be contributing or they were a mistake. Keep Gilmore at this point.

The most depressing part isn't that we spent on 4 CBs this offseadon, it's that the brain trust thought a top D could make up for the crap O they put together while spending so much draft capital needed to help fix the O. 

 

[countryboi]

I completely disagree you don’t have enough of a sampling size to make any determination. We are stacked a corner it’s at least 4 guys that have a legit reason to play over CJ. You could argue that we didn’t need him but he was always a long term play because he didn’t have training camp and the guys ahead of him.

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Gilmore and Taylor were cheap and are productive. Horn and Henderson cost too much and are not producing, at least not yet.

 

Well Horn is hurt, and in his brief action he certainly looked like the real deal. 

[PappyMay]

Gilmore and Donte may not be back. What's the worst thing that happens here? You have a rotational corner or spot starter on a 2 year $5mil deal? He literally turned 23 last week. Too early to give up on him just yet.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, PappyMay said:

Gilmore and Donte may not be back. What's the worst thing that happens here? You have a rotational corner or spot starter on a 2 year $5mil deal? He literally turned 23 last week. Too early to give up on him just yet.

one of the 2 will be resigned I doubt both.   I would bet its probably gilmore that stays

[pantherj]

CJ is young and new to the team. He doesn't understand the defense at the moment, and that is fine. He needs some time to pick it up. It's only a bad deal if he doesn't pan out in the long run. If he begins to comprehend the defense then look the hell out. CJ is built like a damn elite CB and he will be smothering WRs if/when the light comes on.

Edited November 12, 2021 by pantherj

[Jaxel]

CB has been a huge pain point for years. Rhule and co. Saw that, we complained about for over 5 years, regardless of whether Henderson turns out to be an average player or gets it together, no one is going be worrying about our secondary for while. I'm still on the wait and see, but losing a second and third round pick is not the end of the world, for a team that is objectively a QB away.

[Snake]

I swear the IQ of the huddle has dropped significantly the past few years. Nothing but knee jerk reactions allowed these days. 

[Waldo]

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Well Horn is hurt, and in his brief action he certainly looked like the real deal. 

Best ability is availability. We passed on some really good players for a CB that isn’t the rookie CB contributing this year. Next year will be huge for Horn, hopefully it was a freak injury.

[Shocker]

CJ hasn’t even played that much.  This team is loaded at CB all the sudden.  We will probably move 1 guy and not resign Jackson.  It will cost us but Gilmore would be really nice to resign

Edited November 12, 2021 by Shocker