If we tear it all down again how long would it take...

[Snake]

We don't need to tear it down. We need better coaching. Lots of talent on defense and offense can be built with a good plan. 

[SteveSmithTD89]

If we hit on a QB whether that be Cam/Darnold with a competent scheme or a top 10 pick, spend money on the OL, retain Gilmore and Reddick, everyone stay healthy and most importantly get someone who can coach and scheme through adversity were in the playoffs next year. 

If we won half the close games we lost the last 2 years we're in the playoffs both years. 

We simply aren't that far off talent wise and every issue we have resolves around our coaching vs talent. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

3 years if we immediately get on the right track

[Ja Rhule]

We don’t need to tear everything down.  We have a very young talented but mismanaged team.  We need OL, QB and TE.

[Tr3ach]

47 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

When Rhule/Tepper said this was a 5 year rebuild that should have been a red flag

just off the top of my head in recent memory

-Rams went from 1st overall pick to Super Bowl with 2 years in between

-49ers went from 2nd overall pick to Super Bowl the next season

-Cardinals went from 1st overall pick to leading their division as of today with 2 years in between

-Bengals went from 1st overall pick to leading their division as of today with 1 year in between

-Browns went from 1st overall pick to divisional round with 2 years in between

 

The only thing I will say is most of those teams did that by mortgaging their future and forcing a very small winning window.   Not all of them, for example the Bengals.  If you want to make a team that has a chance to win for a long time it usually takes more time.

[Newbie]

19 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

We don’t need to tear everything down.  We have a very young talented but mismanaged team.  We need OL, QB and TE.

Tremble looks promising. We need OL, QB. 

[PeteRozelle]

It depends.....

 

 Is there a team dumb enough to make a Hershel Walker type trade for the oft injured CMC?

 

Probably not, however I think with the right leadership, some luck, it can happen fast.

 

If we stay the course with Matt Rhule, and he actually adapts and learns to coach at the NFL Level? Then 3 plus years, but we could possibly get years of stability and success from that. Thats a BIG IF he evolves.

 

Or go grab someone else and get it done in 2 years, but then wonder when that guy takes the next bigger job after a successful quick turnaround with a franchise in shambles.

 

The way I see it, a coach's job is only secure as how well your QB is playing.

 

[Shocker]

Whoever it is gets two years.  Thats all anyone gets

[Actionman0z]

3 hours ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

So lets say we tear it all down..fire rhule. We hire the next big thing coach..hit on most of our draft picks the next 2 years. How long realistically would it take to get back the to superb owl?

How far away are we with our core and good coaching?

Would you be ok with going through a losing season next year as long as rhule is gone to get a good pick?

What is best case scenario W-L record for our potential rookie coach next year?

What would be your first steps as new coach?

Depends on if you do it every 2 years? If we do… Detroit style. If you have faith, maybe another year or two? 

[Actionman0z]

14 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Whoever it is gets two years.  Thats all anyone gets

Detroit does it every two years, and they have been garbage longer than your puberty transition, so yeah. Every 2 years get new people. 

[Green-Ghost]

I think you only have to look at Miami to answer your question.  Miami tried this plan and they are mediocre, at best.

I’m not saying that it won’t work. I’m saying it still depends upon the coaching staff and the personnel behind the team to make it work.

[BurnNChinn]

Thought that was suppose to happen when we brought Rhule in but they kept thinking we had this awesome team and just needed a qb. Tepper said it won’t be done in 2 or 3 years, when did we actually begin the rebuild. I guess Tepper doesn’t know anything about football.

[LinvilleGorge]

Less time than it would take if we waited to fire Rhule. Rhule ain't the guy.

[Cdparr7]

A good coach and offseason and we are in post season contention next year.