ESPN suggests 2 QBs for 2022 for the Panthers...

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Regardless, if you do not build the OL, you are going to suck.

Yep.  You know the fastest way to make your 2nd tier QB look like he should be Pickles’ back up?

Roll with this line.

[Smithers]

17 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Free agency doesn't work and we have no valuable picks past the 1rst rd

Which is why I said 2/3 rounders we accumulate through trades, which must somehow happen.  
 

and tell teams like KC or LA that FA doesn’t work along the OL.  They might disagree with your assessment. The Oher signing was also huge for us and contributed to Cams MVP season.   We just have to learn you can’t find bargains on the OL.  You have to pony up the big bucks 

[mrcompletely11]

21 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Which is why I said 2/3 rounders we accumulate through trades, which must somehow happen.  
 

and tell teams like KC or LA that FA doesn’t work along the OL.  They might disagree with your assessment. The Oher signing was also huge for us and contributed to Cams MVP season.   We just have to learn you can’t find bargains on the OL.  You have to pony up the big bucks 

Kc signed one guy and traded a first for a left tackle and the drafted their center rg and rt

 

the chargers used a first on a left tackle and he is an all pro.   
 

you see how this works?

[Tr3ach]

Nah they are done with those moves.  No more stop gaps or trying to make a mediocre qb better

[mav1234]

10 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Kc signed one guy and traded a first for a left tackle and the drafted their center rg and rt

 

the chargers used a first on a left tackle and he is an all pro.   
 

you see how this works?

Seems that as long as you draft intelligently for the OL you can also spend money to get good FAs there to fill holes etc. LT is best in the draft if possible for sure.

Problem is our staff believe in themselves too much. They think they can salvage careers... The hubris is real.  So we bargain shop...

[Green-Ghost]

Why does this remind me of Mike Ditka and Ricky Williams.

[KatsAzz]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We’ve tried to address the oline in free agency.  It doesn’t work and we are stuck with bad contracts.   You have to build the line through the draft.   This isn’t hard.  

Exactly. There is just not that many high grade offensive lineman available to chose from  in free agency! 

That is why the Panthers need to go heavy in this years draft for offensive linemen, even if they have to trade a good player our two to obtain more picks.

Edited December 25, 2021 by KatsAzz

[J.B.]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Free agency doesn't work and we have no valuable picks past the 1rst rd

FA works great when you have money to spend and quality players available. Problem is we haven’t had money to spend in forever and don’t end up with the ability to get quality players 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Kc signed one guy and traded a first for a left tackle and the drafted their center rg and rt

 

the chargers used a first on a left tackle and he is an all pro.   
 

you see how this works?

The Chargers drafted a QB when they had a top 10 pick and a terrible OL. They drafted their LT the following year. Some of these Chiefs OL you are talking about were later rounds picks as well, Trey Smith was a late rounder and they paid big money for Thuney in FA. We have a 2nd and 3rd rounder already in Moton and BC. There is definitely more than one way to do this. I’m not against using our top pick on OL as they are an extremely important group, but there is definitely more than one way to turn around a franchise. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

... it's lose today, mortgage tomorrow and lose tomorrow, too. 

This is why Rhule needs to go.  If Tepper keeps Matt around for 2022, he is going to mortgage this team's future in order to save his job setting this franchise back even further.   The Sam Darnold trade is gonna pale in comparison.

[exactlyzack]

Bruh at this point I’m tired of trading for a failed retread qb. We tried with Teddy. Traded a big part of our future for Darnold. If we go QB I want to just go ahead and draft him. Fix the line first though. Until that’s fixed, nothing will change. And the coaches too.

[BrianS]

43 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

This is why Rhule needs to go.  If Tepper keeps Matt around for 2022, he is going to mortgage this team's future in order to save his job setting this franchise back even further.   The Sam Darnold trade is gonna pale in comparison.

And this class is why you never, EVER give your HC full control.

With separate duties, as a normal franchise has, if the coach isn't getting the talent he wants he goes to the owner and says "The GM is crap".  If the coach isn't getting the most out of the players, the GM goes to the owner and says "The coach is crap".

It's really very simple, balanced and functional in a well run franchise.

[GoobyPls]

Jimmy g struggles with Shanahan and those weapons lol

 

draft a QB and stop getting castaways 

[mc52beast]

Here’s another option; don’t freaking give up any more draft capital for qb’s. 
 

BREAKING NEWS; Matt Rhule gives up entire 2023 draft for Mike Glennon