Orlovsky: Pickett doesn’t have anything that isn’t coachable

[Sgt Schultz]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It all it takes is an athletic guy who you can coach up on everything else, how come we have so many failures in the first round and guys who never get better. Maybe there are intrinsic factors like handling pressure and thinking on your feet that might be more innate than taught.

I am inclined to think handling pressure/thinking on his feet/poise is the intangible that separates the keepers from the rest.  Darnold's problem right now is he panics under pressure and makes bad decisions.  He may make bad decisions when not under pressure, but we really don't know that.

Even a QB who can run doesn't necessarily do so out of panic.  Cam was pretty composed back there, even when he had to run for his life.

And a guy who drops back looking for an excuse to run is not necessarily panicking, either.  He just has to be taught to continue to look downfield before giving up on the pass and committing to the run for yardage.  That is not an easy habit to break, either, because it has generally been one that has been relied on pretty much the guy's entire football life.  But, it is easier to coach out than "stop panicking."  Especially if your OL causes panic.

[Jackie Lee]

Some new Fitt stuff from the Observer:

 

JMA: How were you all able to find or identify a guy like Russell Wilson, and did you realize beforehand, like, ‘Oh, he can be a franchise guy?’

SF: This is kind of an interesting story. John Schneider was the GM at the time, went and evaluated Russell on campus early in the fall. He came back and said, ‘Fitt, I found our quarterback.’ I’m like ‘Who? I thought you went to Wisconsin?’ He said, ‘I did. Russell Wilson. I’m going to take that guy in the first round. This is our guy.’ And he knew right away because he saw him on the field, the command we talked about a little bit earlier. He said, ‘He has that.’ And he learned the playbook in like three weeks, became the captain right away, he has something special to him. I’m like John, ‘He’s like 5-10 1/2.’ Every quarterback at that time was like 6-2, 6-3, 6-4. He goes, ‘Yeah, but if you really look at it, the balls aren’t getting batted down, he’s moving in the pocket, he’s doing a lot of different things.’ So as we went through the process, we really kind of were drawn to him. There were a lot of quarterbacks that year, but he was like the one guy that had that ‘it’ factor to him. So we interviewed him at the senior bowl, and then the combine we kind of stayed away from him. We knew we were going to go down that road. And we just kind of played it really quiet with him and we took him. And I think we knew the first minicamp was like a week or two after the draft, he came in, they mic’d him up and once he stepped in the huddle, he wasn’t a rookie. He owned that position. We had gone through three, four or five quarterbacks. We had all these guys coming through and we kept swinging till we found one. It’s kind of the same situation we’re going through right now. We’re going to keep swinging on quarterbacks, taking shots until we find that guy that can lead our team.

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article259934650.html#storylink=cpy

[joemac]

15 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It all it takes is an athletic guy who you can coach up on everything else, how come we have so many failures in the first round and guys who never get better. Maybe there are intrinsic factors like handling pressure and thinking on your feet that might be more innate than taught.

All I want is a smart QB who makes good decisions, is quick in his thinking,  is accurate with his throws and is not afraid to take the occasional chance when the opportunity presents itself.  I don't think thats too much to ask. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

19 minutes ago, joemac said:

All I want is a smart QB who makes good decisions, is quick in his thinking,  is accurate with his throws and is not afraid to take the occasional chance when the opportunity presents itself.  I don't think thats too much to ask. 

Unfortunately there are a lot of millionaires who are current and retired NFL QBs that don't meet said criteria.  

[La Pantera]

Pickett it is then...

[frankw]

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

the Cam Clan

[jb2288]

3 hours ago, joemac said:

But did Brady ever show he was that guy at Michigan?

Ha no idea I’m too young, BUT lets say he didn’t… he was drafted accordingly. A 6th round JAG career practice squad dude may be active to backup a few games, is all anyone expected. 

[top dawg]

14 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

So who was carrying him in college??

College is an entirely different animal. More than a few QBs carry their teams in college. That doesn't mean they're going to carry their teams in the pros.

Remember that the smart scouts are zeroing in on traits.

[Kentucky Panther]

He’s essentially saying the same thing most people with football knowledge are saying. He’s not worth pick 6. I’m sure some of his fans that reside on this board will disagree, but they are legit the only ones.  

[poundaway]

4 hours ago, joemac said:

But did Brady ever show he was that guy at Michigan?

Nope.  Thats why he went 6th round.  

[poundaway]

I feel better knowing Macadoo is there, he has shown some skill at QB eval. 

Also, we don't have the most cap space in the league for nothing.  I wouldn't be surprised if we go JimmyG and OT in the draft.  I could live with that.

[Tr3ach]

3 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

The funny thing is, you can use your line for the Cam Clan too.

Yep, until I read who posted it I thought they meant the opposite of what they meant.

[ForJimmy]

5 hours ago, PhillyB said:

cam newton permanently broke some of you

That’s why we are waiting for Chosen. NO QB will be drafted until Chosen is ready! 

[CRA]

18 hours ago, Shocker said:

Pickett has apparently been working with a QB guru for 6 years.  He worked himself into a better player.  I hope we pick him cuz I think he is going to hit the more I read about him.

yet he stunk for 4 years at Pitt.  Had one good season in year 5 that happened to be in a down year for the ACC (which is still weak in a strong year). 

We are going to spend the #6 overall QB on a guy who is basically on par as a prospect overall as a Will Grier.  But Grier at least was drafted rightfully in the 3rd round.  Which is what would have happened to Pickett in a good draft class too.