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CMC isn’t just a running back

Wundrbread33

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CMC will be 27 starting next year.  I don't see this team really competing for at least 2 years, probably.  He'll be 29 and closer to the dreaded 30 at that point.  We know how that usually goes.  Not to mention the injury history he's already had.  He may continue to be great past 30 of course, because his ability as a receiver is just as good, but just going by how that position usually goes it just made sense.   The 49ers are in a much better position and believe they have a window so they overpaid because they can use the last of the CMC prime years.  We just wouldn't be able to use those correctly.

Plus we now get to see CMC with a better team and coach which should be fun.  He deserves it.  It's what Steve Smith never got till he was already close to retiring and we all have wondered how he would have been with better coaching and QB play.  

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31 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's about as useful as discussing the Robbie Anderson trade. Passions are high there is nowhere for these convos to go but down. We can't change the past have to accept and prepare for a new crop of talent in next years draft.

All of those picks will probably be jags.

The only positive is picking first overall in 2023 and 2024 and top 10 in 2025

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34 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's about as useful as discussing the Robbie Anderson trade. Passions are high there is nowhere for these convos to go but down. We can't change the past have to accept and prepare for a new crop of talent in next years draft.

Well philosophically any discussion about the panthers, ever, isn’t worth having because we can’t impact anything as fans. So discussing the draft is pointless, unless we are in position to discuss with Fitterer/new coach.

 

Discussing potential coaches is a waste unless we are discussing with Fitt/Tepper.

 

Seems silly cherry picking what is worth talking about, if, in the end, all of the discussion is pointless anyway because we don’t have say. 

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I keep hearing off injured but those seasons he was injured and didn’t return, was there any real reason to risk reagravating or longer term injury on a team that wasn’t contending or no where near it? 
 

I think the injury’s with cmc are over blown a bit 

 

They blew it, sold us lies about the first go around being a rebuild and to be patience. Did everything losing franchises do, and let a first time nfl coach run the team into the ground, the compensation for cmc is reasonable but we should have never been in a situation where we are trading away great players in the first place 

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The return value was good, but I can't help but think we're unlikely to get anywhere near the potential production from those picks as we would have had from CMC the next few years, if we really are going for a young offensive minded HC. We just traded away our most valuable piece there...

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