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New Coach Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo


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Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

Doesn’t matter what people say Wilks fanatics will always have excuses. Gonna be interesting how you guys spin it isn’t his fault if he is hired and falls on his face in 2023. 

Facts are excuses.  Lmfao. Plus I'm not exactly a Wilks fanatic. 

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18 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

At this point I think it’s Denver or back to Fox. If he was wanting Carolina it would’ve been done by now

It’s really going to come down to Steichen or Wilks for us. 

If Payton is demanding full control, I can't understand why he'd even do the interview with Arizona. They just hired their GM like last week.

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24 minutes ago, Killah_Ray said:

What I wanted was for an actual organized thread instead of everyone talking in circles saying the same poo which was the reason I thought the other was locked and this one was made. 

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6 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

But you know that question is most likely going to be asked.

I doubt it.  Fitterer even said after this season that last years draft was a "nuts and bolts" draft and never mentioned Corral I dont think.  The question I'm sure that came up is what would you want to do to fix the qb problem.  Not, can you fix corral?

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Just now, methodtoll said:

Actually, Steichen came from the Norv Turner tree and there is rumblings of him and Scott Turner joining forces

I think I'd be content with Steichen as HC with Turner as OC and Fangio as DC. I was listening to The Athletic Football Podcast this morning and they were talking about how Turner has been saddled with poo QBs his entire tenure as an OC:

  • 24 games with Taylor Heinicke 
  • 7 games with Carson Wentz
  • 6 with hobbled Alex Smith
  • 6 with Dwayne Haskins (RIP)
  • 6 with Kyle Allen
  • 2 with Will Grier
  • 1 (partial) with Garrett Gilbert
  • 1 with Ryan Fitzpatrick 
  • 1 rookie 5th round pick Sam Howell

He's coached 54 games as an OC and never once had a true NFL starting QB. Podcast below (Turner discussion starts around 57 minute mark).

Also good thoughts at the top on the HC openings and basically have Texans (due to draft capital and ability to grab your QB) ranked first with Panthers second (much better roster and an owner committed to spending on a winner). Said if the Panthers had a 2nd 1st round pick instead of Texans, Carolina would be far and away the best opening.

 

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