Latter round QBs

[OldhamA]

2 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

If Hooker didn't get hurt he would be a 1st round QB. 

I think that system / supporting cast made him look much better than he is.

He's also in his mid-20s.

[Bear Hands]

McKee will go Day-2 along with Hooker. McKee doesn't excite me and even though Davis Mills is an easy comparison, it is a bit true.  He can move better than you think, but he doesn't have the arm you'd want with his size.  It's good but it should be a lot better.  And he just doesn't push downfield well.  Not a creator.      

Re: Hooker -- I don't think he is getting the credit he deserves; he could be a good QB.  His Bama game was off the charts and he's got the skills.  Age and offense be damned.  That being said, those are big factors to consider.  His ability to adapt to NFL offenses will be huge.

Haener & Hall are the only other two worth a damn IMO.  

Haener would've been a much higher pick if he wasn't a twig.  I love his game and leadership.  He's a baller.  Could have a Taylor Heinicke type trajectory.  

I was originally high on Tune, Duggan, and some others, but I just don't see Sunday level play from them.

You can scratch Bagent, Cunningham, & Bonner, they are UDFA.   

 

 

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

McKee will go Day-2 along with Hooker. McKee doesn't excite me and even though Davis Mills is an easy comparison, it is a bit true.  He can move better than you think, but he doesn't have the arm you'd want with his size.  It's good but it should be a lot better.  And he just doesn't push downfield well.  Not a creator.      

Re: Hooker -- I don't think he is getting the credit he deserves; he could be a good QB.  His Bama game was off the charts and he's got the skills.  Age and offense be damned.  That being said, those are big factors to consider.  His ability to adapt to NFL offenses will be huge.

Haener & Hall are the only other two worth a damn IMO.  

Haener would've been a much higher pick if he wasn't a twig.  I love his game and leadership.  He's a baller.  Could have a Taylor Heinicke type trajectory.  

I was originally high on Tune, Duggan, and some others, but I just don't see Sunday level play from them.

You can scratch Bagent, Cunningham, & Bonner, they are UDFA.   

 

 

McKee is interesting and a huge question mark.  He is suppose to be one of the more accurate QBs with a decent arm who was highly recruited out of high school.  The issue is the supporting cast around him was so bad he wasn't able to develop properly.  Never really had time or players open.  

[jayboogieman]

25 minutes ago, ncfan said:

People were on his “bandwagon” well well before then.

Its crazy how quickly we forget people were talking him up this time last year the same way we are talking about Drake and Caleb Today

 

 

I know there were a lot of folks high on Stroud before the Georgia game, but a lot more jumped on the bandwagon after it.

[ncsfinest21]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Duggan has a ton of heart, but I don't think he has an NFL arm/accuracy...

I can see your point but at the same time I dont. I watched TCU the whole year and Duggan really had great touch on his passes and great pocket awareness. The past couple games may have been big games for him that mentally he may not have been ready for. But I think when he settles in, he will be good starter.

[Jackie Lee]

40 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

McKee will go Day-2 along with Hooker. McKee doesn't excite me and even though Davis Mills is an easy comparison, it is a bit true.  He can move better than you think, but he doesn't have the arm you'd want with his size.  It's good but it should be a lot better.  And he just doesn't push downfield well.  Not a creator.      

Re: Hooker -- I don't think he is getting the credit he deserves; he could be a good QB.  His Bama game was off the charts and he's got the skills.  Age and offense be damned.  That being said, those are big factors to consider.  His ability to adapt to NFL offenses will be huge.

Haener & Hall are the only other two worth a damn IMO.  

Haener would've been a much higher pick if he wasn't a twig.  I love his game and leadership.  He's a baller.  Could have a Taylor Heinicke type trajectory.  

I was originally high on Tune, Duggan, and some others, but I just don't see Sunday level play from them.

You can scratch Bagent, Cunningham, & Bonner, they are UDFA.   

 

 

I think Hooker could easily come in and look similar to Geno of this year. He's a bit like Teddy but with a better arm/not afraid to throw downfield and can actually run a little bit if he wants. He did have a lot of open vertical routes but wasn't Mahomes grilled about this same kinda thing? I hate that Hooker doesn't get the benefit of the doubt even though he went 31td's to 3 int's then 27td's to 2 ints this year, but Will Levis truthers are like he's great his O-line! His Toe! Wasn't his fault! 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Stanford's Tanner McKee and Tennessee's Hendon Hooker are exactly the type of QB's Frank Reich looks for to run his system. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 hour ago, d-dave said:

I think you have to go to the Bill Parcells QB thoughts.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/165172-brock-purdy-parcells-rules/ (first hit in google!)

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2022-nfl-draft-qb-class-bill-parcells-rules/ (context on KP versus Golden Corral)

So there's that.  I think if you're drafting a late QB flyer - get them with those traits to have the best shot at hitting on the late round QB.

Funny enough, we might see more QBs plucked late hoping to hit on the Brock Purdy jackpot.  The reality is that Purdy played well in Shanahan's offense, which is one of the most QB friendly in the entire league.  QBs are so incredibly important.

You trying to get banned?  How could you post something that points to Corral being a good QB.  That's blasphemous to our Draft experts that insist these QBs are leaps and bounds better than Corral.

Come On Man.

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In 70 years 4 qbs have gone in the top 10 twice.   Someone always drops

The dropper will be AR, in my opinion.  We are getting Levis or no QB, if you ask me.  Young/Stroud are probably going in top 3 to 4 picks, and I do not see Carolina moving up that far--if Stroud or young falls to #6, they will move up.  Just guessing.

[rebelrouser]

1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

Re: Hooker -- I don't think he is getting the credit he deserves; he could be a good QB.  His Bama game was off the charts and he's got the skills.  Age and offense be damned.  That being said, those are big factors to consider.  His ability to adapt to NFL offenses will be huge.

I agree. He picked up Heupel's offense very quickly as a transfer and absolutely mastered it his second year. His long ball looks very accurate and he was very successful against great defenses. He also thinks he will be ready for fall camp (of course he would say that). I would be willing to bet he will be a better nfl qb than AR four years from now.  

[Aussie Tank]

We’ve already got our mid to late round project QB we don’t really need another 

[Wundrbread33]

3 hours ago, ncfan said:

The Willis to number 2 hype never even started until he did his roll out long pass on his Proday.  This time last year, they were still saying early 2nd late 1st.

Stroud and Young have been hyped for a while.  And a lot of people were talking about tanking for these 2 the same way they are Drake and Caleb today.
 

 

 

 

 

What exactly do you think I was trying to say?

Edited February 8, 2023 by Wundrbread33

[KatsAzz]

After the NFL Combine gets thought with their evaluations, I look for some present high rated QB's to slip back a little while a few lesser ones move up .

[JawnyBlaze]

I don’t like anyone outside the top 4. I’d rather just roll with Corral unless someone like Dugan or Hooker falls to the 6th or 7th. Those are throwaway rounds anyway, wouldn’t hurt to take a chance.  If we don’t get a top four QB then this draft will have been a fail.