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Panthers are now the betting favorite for the #1 pick

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2 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Look at the records (at the time) of the teams who made those moves. 

2016:

The trade between Rams and Titans.

Tennessee gave up trade value of 3104.2 and received trade value of 3365!

From the research I’ve done in 2001:

The trade between Chargers and Falcons.

Chargers gave up trade value of 3000 and received trade value of 2376! (Chargers must have received something else to match what they gave up in trade value)

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3 hours ago, rayzor said:

That's not enough reason to not swing this year. 

Fug this timid crap. If you're confident, you go for it.

Is it just me or is the truly bold move the signing of Lamar Jackson?  
 

The draft is the draft. There is a true young franchise QB accepting offers rn….   

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3 hours ago, rayzor said:

Have you not been paying attention to who makes up this coaching staff? These are guys who knows offense and knows QBs. If there's a coaching staff that you should trust with deciding on a QB, it's this one. 

Frank fuggin Reich

Jim Caldwell

Josh McCown

Just these guys alone should be enough to warrant confidence in this team's ability to choose a good QB. It is for me anyway. 

I think their judgement on making this move is better than any staff this team has ever had. Conversely, I think they also have the ability to rationalize regarding “how much is too much” if it comes to that.  
 

I'm pretty confident with whose in charge which is good as I have no say in the matter.  

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41 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

A franchise qb is never too expensive. A franchise qb will bring in millions of revenue, notoriety, keep you in contention for super bowls. Invest in the now! 

How do you know he is a franchise QB?  Nothing is guaranteed.  Trevor Lawrence was the perfect QB that has been good,  not great.  No Lawrence here.  Giving up 3 firsts is incredibly risky for any of these players 

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1 hour ago, Shocker said:

How do you know he is a franchise QB?  Nothing is guaranteed.  Trevor Lawrence was the perfect QB that has been good,  not great.  No Lawrence here.  Giving up 3 firsts is incredibly risky for any of these players 

How do you know that he WON'T be a franchise QB? Life is all about risks, everyone knows that tomorrow is not guaranteed, but if you also don't take risks you'll never achieve greatness. Do you know what your future holds? You don't, but you do the best that you can and make a calculated decision! 

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