Why Bryce young will be the pick and we should be excited

[Mother Grabber]

29 minutes ago, RIPTreyLance said:

The history shows my ideas are usually right. So disagreeing with my analysis is technically the same as playing with fire 

[csx]

I'll be momentarily disappointed  then get behind him if he's the pick

Edited March 18 by csx

[JawnyBlaze]

9 minutes ago, csx said:

I'll be momentarily disappointed  then get behind him if he's the pick

Same

[bobcat91]

Wilson and Brees were short but both were stocky and well built. Bryce is short and small. Alabama has a world class weight training facility. If they had years with him and he is still 180 to 185, that's who he is. He is too small for a long career in the NFL and that gamble would kill Carolina for years. We are going to take stroud.

[MHS831]

There is good reason to think Young will be the pick--most of the NFL experts I have heard that have shared an opinion say he is the best QB in the draft and should be the #1 pick.   They are aware of his size when they said so.  Kyler Murray was 5'10" and a #1 overall pick, so the precedent has been set. He weighs 205 lbs.  He has gone to 2 pro bowls. He runs more than Young will run, but he does not process the field as quickly and he is not as accurate.  He was just paid a $46m per year salary and was considered to be an elite qb until 2022 when he was injured, overpaid, and not effective.  An ex-teammate (Kelvin Beachum) recently said that Murray needs to "grow up a little bit" if he wants to lead the franchise.  Based on my perception, Murray is childish, a front runner, and a whiner.  Bryce Young, on the other hand, is respected and admired by teammates and opponents (see what Georgia players said about him).  Young is a student of the game, a selfless contributor to the overall objectives, etc.  Mentally, he is a man.  I would say that he is more advanced mentally than Kyler Murray and he processes more quickly. So why is his size such an important issue to fans but it doesn't seem to be enough of a factor with the NFL experts (Marc Ross, for example, former Giants GM) to drop him behind Stroud.

So what does Stroud have that Young does not?  Size. He throws a pretty ball and it is on point and on time.  He is my preference between the two, but the "experts" I have heard from on NFL Network like Young over Stroud.  If the same size, would Young be better?  I think so.  So then the issue comes down to how much weight you give to weight and height.

I think Young (mentally) is far above the other QBs in the draft.  He ran a more complex offense and he was able to process at the level of an NFL elite QB.  Stroud's offense was not as challenging, but he did go through progressions.  He successfully performed what he was asked to do.  So over the next 40 days, I think that is the area of these QBs that will be measured--processing.  If they are equal, Stroud is the pick.  If Young dominates in this area, and he could likely do that, I could see the Panthers going with Young and I could see that being the best decision. 

I know that it is fun to discuss and will dominate the discussions over the next few days, but we should all state our perspectives based on the understanding that we simply do not know.  We do not know that Young will be injured more than Stroud.  We do not know which will have a great career and which will not--if the case.  We are all speculating.  This post was created with an open mind--I prefer Stroud right now, but I could be wrong.

Edited March 18 by MHS831

[Buckeye Homer]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Stroud's offense was not as challenging,

I don't know what you're basing this on.  Ryan Day runs a pass-first, pro-style, offense.  Day was previously a QB coach in the NFL.  A lot of of NFL teams would LOVE for Day to be their OC or even head coach.

[MechaZain]

Frame concerns are valid I'm but tired of hearing about height. Been proven time and time again here that it doesn't matter.

[Buckeye Homer]

14 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Frame concerns are valid I'm but tired of hearing about height. Been proven time and time again here that it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't say that height "doesn't matter" but it's evident that some short quarterbacks can achieve a high level of success in the NFL.  

https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/columns/off-the-field/putting-the-physics-back-into-football-short-qbs/

[MechaZain]

40 minutes ago, Buckeye Homer said:

I wouldn't say that height "doesn't matter" but it's evident that some short quarterbacks can achieve a high level of success in the NFL.  

https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/columns/off-the-field/putting-the-physics-back-into-football-short-qbs/

I get the thought process but everytime stats are brought into it they don't correlate with what everyone keeps assuming. Like if anything it's the taller guys who tend to get their passes batted. Probably because unlike a short QB, they've never had put as much thought or work into their verticle placement so they get lazy at times.

Would things have been easier for Steve Smith if he was six inches taller? Sure, but it was never a problem because he worked with what God gave him and overcame the disadvantage by being great.  Young's height is part of his game for better or worse and he's the top prospect anyway. He's already overcome it and we're still acting like he's going to get every other pass batted down. Pros aren't that much taller than college players. 

Edited March 18 by MechaZain

[FugginPoo]

It’s not height it’s the fact 300lb linemen are going to destroy him in the NFL and will inevitably be more likely to have major injuries from it.  It’s happening to Tua and his frame is bigger

[Day1PanthersFan]

It's going to be Stroud or Richardson, and you should also be excited 

Young has great intangibles, but just not the body to hold up to the punishment he's going to get in the NFL , Cam was a linebacker and RB in a QBs Body, and he didn't have a long career, how do you expect someone with body type of a kicker to survive one season

I actually think Young will fall way down in the draft because of it 

[Lame Duck]

[bythenbrs]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

So over the next 40 days, I think that is the area of these QBs that will be measured--processing. 

This.  There is also one other (intangible) factor that is not frequently mentioned: leadership.  Some people have it within them, others don’t.  It is almost impossible to define and measure but, you know it when you truly see it.  It is much more than swagger and bravado. 

If one of these two young men has both processing and leadership traits, pick him.  

[Toker Smurf]

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