Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Fanbase Temperature Gauge: Who do you like and who do you want? (3/21/23)


Ricky Spanish
 Share

Who is the better QB prospect?  

355 members have voted

  1. 1. Who is the better QB prospect?

    • Bryce Young
      103
    • CJ Stroud
      134
    • Both are equally good
      118
  2. 2. Which QB do you WANT us to draft?

    • Bryce Young
      69
    • CJ Stroud
      179
    • I'm good with either
      96
    • Chaos (Levis or Richardson)
      11

This poll is closed to new votes


Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Heard Todd McShay discussing how quickly Stroud processes and then shift to hit WRs with dimes. We have not seen that around here in a long time. 

Yeah that's another thing.  Stroud isn't a bad processer.  In fact he is very good at it.  He had the top rating in all of the NCAA last year.  Does Young have the edge in processing? Probably, but I've also seen him miss open looks due to lack of vision.  @Wes21posted several clips of this I believe.  

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Brent Gregory said:

If Bryce young were 3 inches taller and 15 pounds heavier I'd be absolutely ecstatic over him but he's not. Stroud has the natural size you like and great stats. That being said Stroud is the safe choice. 

I know what you are saying--but hear me out--in part, I agree with every word.  David Carr, Mark Sanchez, Sam Darnold, Blaine Gabbart, EJ Manual, Blake Bortles, etc. all had the size and the tools.  The real question was processing speed--they all seemed to struggle to go through their progressions and make a timely, accurate throw.  We know we have a QB who can do that in Young.  Do we in Stroud?  I would say there is a strong chance he can do it, just to a slightly lesser degree (or he was never asked to do it as Young was).  We know Young's size and his processing speed, for the most part--what we need to know is about Stroud.  If Stroud can come close to equalling Young, you take him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Since I honestly don't know, I kind of wish the Panthers had the second pick in the draft so we eliminate the chance of making the wrong selection.

It don't matter which pick in the draft fi we are at the top of the whole thing. We can get any pick we want pretty much and still get who we want. We will not make any errors on who our pick will be. With the more competent staff we have now things should run smoothly and get what we actually need to fill the holes in both lines.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

And that is weird that Panthers youtube channel just posted the D.J mock draft 3.0 on their channel which mock Bryce Young is the No1 Pick for us....Hmmmmmnnnn....

 

The social media team has no idea who we are taking 1st

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, DavidEng said:

Stroud - more interceptions than Young (per game avg)

I agree with this 

Mainly because CJ is very aggressive pushing the ball downfield. I feel like CJ may have some crazy interception games as a rookie. With a couple games of 2 or 3 int’s. He’ll put up touchdowns and yards too but it’ll take him a year or two to figure out when to be aggressive and when not to

Young is definitely the more conservative of the two. I could see something like a 24 touchdown 8 interception type season from BY his rookie season

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The social media team has no idea who we are taking 1st

Honestly, they actually know A LOT. They’re the ones filming all the behind the scene stuff you see after the draft and the ones prepping pieces to come out immediately after we draft a guy

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I know what you are saying--but hear me out--in part, I agree with every word.  David Carr, Mark Sanchez, Sam Darnold, Blaine Gabbart, EJ Manual, Blake Bortles, etc. all had the size and the tools.  The real question was processing speed--they all seemed to struggle to go through their progressions and make a timely, accurate throw.  We know we have a QB who can do that in Young.  Do we in Stroud?  I would say there is a strong chance he can do it, just to a slightly lesser degree (or he was never asked to do it as Young was).  We know Young's size and his processing speed, for the most part--what we need to know is about Stroud.  If Stroud can come close to equalling Young, you take him.

I get what you are saying but what makes people think Stroud isn’t as good at processing and progressions? I’ve seen him drop back and go through his reads on the regular while putting up great numbers.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I don't need that many words to say Bryce Young has not yet surpassed the caliber of QB play that current Joe Flacco represents.   I have watched every game Bryce has played.  He doesn't give you average QB play.   He can't make a ton of throws.  Bryce is consistent overall in what he is.  You can take outlier games on both ends of the spectrum out of play and judge him or any QB.....for Bryce it is unquestioned bottom of the league play.  All you have to do is watch the two play.  Flacco is good enough that if you can keep up right and give him time.....he presents a level of play Bryce can't do as a passer  
    • Not sure.  Which ones have more GWDs in the same time frame?
    • You kinda gloss over this, but this is really at the crux of this whole argument....which Flacco are we talking here?  You bring up that he played with 3 different teams but ignore the fact that his performance varied quite a bit from team to team. 2024 Colts: 65.3% completion, 12 TDs, 7 INTs, 220.1 YPG, 7.1 Y/A, 90.5 rating 2025 Browns: 58.1% completion, 2 TDs, 6 INTs, 203.8 YPG, 5.1 Y/A, 60.3 rating 2025 Bengals: 63.4% completion, 12 TDs, 3 INTs, 290.6 YPG, 6.8 Y/A, 96.2 rating 2025 Flacco (Browns + Bengals): 61.1% completion, 14 TDs, 9 INTs, 252.0 YPG, 6.1 Y/A, 80.8 rating vs. 2025 Bryce: 62.7% completion, 14 TDs, 7 INTs, 196.2 YPG, 6.2 Y/A, 86.0 rating I bolded the comparison that I think objectively makes the most sense...just simply comparing the two QBs for the entire season.  Otherwise you'd be cherry-picking Flacco's time with the Bengals and ignoring his earlier stint with the Browns, which sounds an awful lot like people cherry-picking Bryce's stats in the second half of last season. So again, which Flacco?  Basically the only thing consistent with Flacco across each of these teams was his W/L records: 2-4, 1-3, and 1-4 respectively.  I'd say if we're comparing each version of him to Bryce this year: Colts Flacco > 2025 Bryce, Browns Flacco <<< 2025 Bryce, Bengals Flacco >> 2025 Bryce, and 2025 Flacco < 2025 Bryce - Flacco this year only beats out Bryce on YPG but in part because he throws significantly more passes (almost 60 YPG more than Bryce, despite a lower Y/A which is pretty telling) .  Flacco is maybe the most apt case study about how important a QB's circumstances are to his success.  He was easily a bottom 3 QB in Cleveland and arguably top 10-15 in Cincinnati...and we're talking about the same player from the same season.  All that happened was taking him from one team and plopping him onto another team; nothing inherently changed about him as a QB.  Funny enough I think that's all that one dude on here was trying to say when he made that long poorly-received post after having an epiphany working for PFF behind the scenes or w/e.  That it's largely short-sighted to just try to evaluate QBs in a vacuum when there are so many variables at play that ultimately decide whether a QB is successful or not.   I think Bryce has been mediocre at best this season and I'm ready to move on regardless of how he ends this season - I'm highly skeptical a strong end to the season will carry over into next year considering how last year ended and this year began.  I would certainly agree that he's a bottom-third QB this year.  I just don't understand you scoffing indignantly at anyone holding the opinion that Bryce has had a better season than Flacco...I can only assume it's recency bias.  Or maybe you know the stats don't support you, which is why you're conjuring up the god-forsaken arbitrary "eyeball test" which is the kinda thing people in here were saying about Fields for years, pinky promising that he really truly was a franchise QB despite his awful stats.  Perhaps it's called the eyeball test because I roll my eyes anytime I hear someone bring it up seriously as an argument.
×
×
  • Create New...